𝘗𝘦𝘳𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘦 𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘥 𝘧𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘴 𝘮𝘦𝘢𝘯𝘴 𝘐 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘬 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘳𝘦 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘤𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘨𝘦𝘵𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵 𝘈 𝘵𝘰 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵 𝘉 𝘪𝘴 𝘷𝘢𝘭𝘶𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘯𝘦𝘤𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘢𝘳𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘪𝘵 𝘥𝘰𝘦𝘴𝘯’𝘵 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘥 𝘵𝘰 “𝘴𝘶𝘤𝘤𝘦𝘴𝘴” 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘳𝘦 𝘫𝘰𝘶𝘳𝘯𝘦𝘺 𝘪𝘴 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘩𝘸𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘦 𝘪𝘧 𝘪𝘵 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘸𝘪𝘴𝘥𝘰𝘮. 𝘈𝘴 𝘢 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘶𝘭𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘰𝘶𝘵𝘭𝘰𝘰𝘬, 𝘐 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘦𝘮𝘱𝘢𝘵𝘩𝘺 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘶𝘨𝘨𝘭𝘦, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘐 𝘢𝘮 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘰 𝘭𝘦𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘺 𝘴𝘶𝘱𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘴. - Elaine Barlow

As much as Gillian likes to say she's "over it" and has come to "appreciate it" ... it's screamingly obvious that that's a lie.

She spends a chunk of time actually sitting there INSULTING HERSELF while she watches scenes from the pilot episode ... she talks about the entire process with so much scorn that her teeth are gnashing together even more than usual. Why does she continue to agree to even discuss it when she clearly hates it and herself at that time so much. For someone who suffered as much ABUSE as she suffered as a result of her role in that show for DECADES ... maybe she needs to heal instead of seethe.

"Watching this is so cringe" she says ...

THEN STOP AGREEING TO DO THIS STUFF.

If you can't heal, then stop torturing yourself with self inflicted abuse and admonishments about your early career.

You know what's also cringe, Gillian? Listening to you hate on yourself.

Didn't you get enough of OTHER PEOPLE doing that to you?

I'm starting to think that she hates being a role model for what she considers the absolute wrong reasons.

She wants to be a role model based on being a hardcore, brutal, workaholic, who can hate on herself as much as men use to love to ... or whatever she thinks a "strong woman" is in her mind.

When you start to take yourself so seriously and forget that your job is literally just cosplay and pretending all day, that's just sad.

It's ACTING. It's not curing cancer. It ain't that serious.

@thewebrecluse I don't know about this case but... I think many little girls are taught never to brag, to the extreme that whenever they are praised or accomplish something they must denigrate the accomplishment and emphasize only the things they did wrong, or even if done right, could have done better.

@walterbays if you don't know the hell Gillian went through, how she came back from it, how she was talked into going through even more Hell, came back from it, and how much abuse she suffered, you can't really understand what this is all about ...

@thewebrecluse No, never heard any of it. Is there a source you'd recommend? Or better not to?

@walterbays You kinda had to be following it from literally when the show was airing ... what she represented at that time ... what the show represented ... if you do a search online you'll find plenty of stuff about her discussing the sexism and the general hell but if you were watching it back then and we a part of the fandom its quite well known.

@thewebrecluse I'm a little out of touch. I remember her for the X Files, and thought she was great. I don't recall seeing her in anything since then. I have however been inside a movie theater during this century. ;)

@walterbays If you havent seen Gillian in anything since XFiles yes I'd say you're out of touch. If you don't know what the XFiles did to her career, if you don't know how they treated her, if you don't know, in general, what sexism has done to many women's careers especially hers ... yes I'd say you're more than a little out of touch. 👍🏾

@thewebrecluse Thanks. I found a "new" show to watch. Well, 2015 newish. I question the article's statement that powerful women in film are always resented and undermined though. Offhand these come to mind: The Blacklist, Designated Survivor, The Diplomat, Extraordinary Attorney Woo.
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/01/the-fall-the-most-feminist-show-on-television/384751/

@walterbays If you question it, I'd say you're not only out of touch, but also very ignorant as well.

@thewebrecluse People who claim to be "results oriented" tend to actually be goal-oriented, as opposed to mission-oriented.

Short term, easily visible "results" (that matter to the person), are seen as ongoing success, often at the expense of the overall mission.

Being mission-oriented means that you focus on the mission, not on satisfying short-term goals. Whatever gets you there gets you there.

@AskTheDevil @thewebrecluse This is what knitting did for me. And art. It's all about wanting a thing. There's a huge desire to rush so you have it, but if you do so, you won't be happy with the results. You have to relax. to fall into it, to learn to enjoy the process. It has indeed spread into other areas of my life, to great benefit.

@tippitiwichet @AskTheDevil ABSOLUTE TRUTH! ❤️

@AskTheDevil What Gillian went through I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy ... no one deserves that hell of being "the first woman to" etc etc ... the stuff that was said about her, how she was treated for DECADES ... I understand the anger and the disgust she has ... it's just directed at the WRONG PERSON.

@AskTheDevil I can't imagine what it feels like for her to have been such an inspiration for young women in science while at the same time HATING herself, her character, dealing with such deep misogyny and sexual harassment and absolute disrespect from people she was working with. How can you have pride about being a role model in a role where you suffered so much? I get it. It's impossible. She became this hard woman to protect herself. I get that too. But hating that "weaker" self is not it.