I don't understand.
The first report I saw of gunfire near MaL had it that two people were shooting *at each other* and not only was it not aimed at TFG, but here was nowhere in the vicinity.
Now *everyone* is talking as if there was another assassination attempt. Are we *really* falling for that shit here? Or did I miss something?
@JolieSaboteuse But everyone HERE is saying it. Even fucking JESTER! Actually sharing disinfo! Here!
@stueytheround If you watched the US news media right now, it's the top story. Assassination attempt. Very facts light and sensation heavy. Even MSNBC.
@JolieSaboteuse Still, I expect better from the person who started this site, in part, to combat disinformation.
@stueytheround Situation is, to say the least, unclear. Official FBI statement refers to "apparent assassination attempt".
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@stueytheround @JolieSaboteuse I may have missed something, but I think those were jokes aimed at how the media is making it a big deal.
@stueytheround Doesnt matter to me- i dont vote based on assassination attempts- you vote based on policy of the candidate
@AkomoCombine but why are cosonauts sharing disinfo?
@AkomoCombine Even @th3j35t3r is doing it. Was there an assassination attempt or not, J?
Dude I have no idea. What I do know is for all the guns floating around this place, its seems to me nobody can shoot straight. Or in some cases, even get into a stable firing position.
@th3j35t3r So please stop talking as though he was shot at. People listen to you and believe you. Yet we don't know. Nobody does.
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@stueytheround @th3j35t3r @AkomoCombine
The AP is going with the "apparent assassination attempt" angle, too. We don't know what we don't know, but it is the prevalent narrative at the moment.
src: https://apnews.com/
@evistre @stueytheround @th3j35t3r @AkomoCombine
Whether it is or is not what the media is running with at the moment, the thing that bothers me the most are all of the people here joking about it, just like the earlier incident in PA.
I'm all for a good laugh, but to me joking about assassination attempts minimizes their seriousness, and the people making the jokes definitely wouldn't be singing the same tune if it was an attempt on the person they support.
@voltronic @stueytheround @th3j35t3r @AkomoCombine
Agreed there. Not a fan of the jokes.
@evistre @stueytheround @th3j35t3r @AkomoCombine
And even if you think the jokes are no big deal, consider that the more we normalize and sensationalize the violence the more chances there are to inspire copycats. School shootings, for an obvious example.
The media has a lot to blame for this kind of thing; they've been profiting off sensationalizing violence for many years. But we don't need to help them.
@stueytheround @th3j35t3r @AkomoCombine
FBI & Secret Service say it was an assassination attempt, and they have someone in custody.
@Pungent @stueytheround @th3j35t3r @AkomoCombine
Again I have to say that for me (N=1) it's hard to resist conspiracy theories. SS missing shit like this?
Going to a slightly different place, maybe, what if these are supporters who want to *almost* make him a martyr?
@wolfwoman @stueytheround @th3j35t3r @AkomoCombine
I'm nearly certain the only people who would benefit from his assassination would be his supporters.
I'm just conversing like everyone else while we figure out what went down.
@th3j35t3r @stueytheround @AkomoCombine
An AK-47 is an odd choice for a 400-500 yd. shot. It's not known for its accuracy.
@th3j35t3r @stueytheround @AkomoCombine
So it had to be a club member, right? Had to be hidden in the golf bag. How else do they get onto the course with a long gun?
I think the answer is nauts are humans too and something sometimes looks believable, and very few of us fact check something so outlandish and heavily reported as gun fire near a US candidate.
we all would like to know wtf went down, too btw you aren’t the only person wanting to know the facts of the matter. @stueytheround @AkomoCombine
@Armchaircouch @stueytheround @AkomoCombine afaik ss agents shot at the dude but I don't know if dude actually shot the rifle or not.
@stueytheround Apparently we’re waiting for the bullshit to reach a crescendo
@stueytheround Nope. And he’s already sent a fundraising email. He’s trash.
@stueytheround no untruth too small for him. he's a brazen opportunistic propagandist sociopath given a platform by his party and the media including the RW social media echo chamber.
@peeppeepcircus So WHY ARE WE SHARING THE LIES AS THOUGH THEY'RE THE FUCKING TRUTH?
@stueytheround define "WE"
@peeppeepcircus Oh you want me to start naming names? I'm out of here. I'm fucking livid.
@stueytheround i just checked in a few minutes ago, so I think I might have missed something?
but it sounds like you may be getting exposed to the same lies from him that we are, which is frustrating and burdensome for any one who cares about truth. so i totally get that.
@peeppeepcircus No. My only social media is here.
The only lies I'm seeing are from cosonauts making assumptions based on what THEY have read.
I'm not getting exposed to lies anywhere but HERE!
@stueytheround i've seen some awful stuff from Nauts on different occasions, so I know the feeling.
hang in there. there is still a community to be had.
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@stueytheround The first report was that there were shots fired at the perimeter of the golf course. Because Trump doesn't have press with him, it took time to get the full story out.
The secret service was a ways ahead of him on the golf course when they saw a guy poking a gun barrel through the fence, they shot at him and he dropped the gun, a couple backpacks and a GoPro and took off in a vehicle which was later stopped.
@stueytheround The shots that were fired were by the secret service. So no Trump didn't actually get shot at, but there was a guy with a gun so yeah it's a possible assassination attempt. There are some photos of the arrest and the gun and stuff he left behind.
@nonayadambidnes Thanks. Don't get me wrong, I know *something* happened but the way so many are jumping to conclusions, including conspiratorial ones, is maddening because we are way better than that here on coso. We know very well to wait, fact-check, trust but verify and not believe a word that comes out of TFGs mouth 😜
I can't find it now, but on one of the live articles I read, they mentioned that most presidential candidates travel with a group of press so if something newsworthy happens, it's shared immediately. But Trump doesn't have that so even the ear incident took a lot longer for the story to get out. He probably doesn't want the press around to report on him pooping his pants or missing an easy shot. 😄
@stueytheround Is it just me, or is it really easy to fall into a conspiracy theory here? In this case, *someone* wants to make him a martyr. They always *seem* to miss .... hmmmm......
@wolfwoman That's the other thing I'm seeing. What most likely happened is an asshole with a gun rocked up and thought they could get a potshot or two at him, but many folk will more than likely think it's a fake attack or something like a disgruntled Swiftie (or Springfield resident), depending on their political leanings. I'm a firm believer in Occam's razor in situations like this.
I was never a conspiracy theorist until TRUMP. I’m not seeing conspiracies all around me. I’m seeing one lying orange criminal at the center of the chaos, who is a narcissistic psychopath who will do ANYTHING to protect himself (from PRISON) and get what he wants.
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@stueytheround I saw same. Urban area that was a little dangerous and people shooting at each other. Now it's man hiding in bushes with an ak aiming at Trump and getting into shooting match with Secret Service yet was picked up not looking like swiss cheese.
The secret service saw a gun barrel and shot at the person with the gun. That was the initial shots heard.
@stueytheround You missed the fact that trump lies all the time, and the media just amplifies that shit.