Triple plus ungood.

She's gone, for at least a year, even if they get the fire out before the aviation fuel tanks explode.

She just came out of a scheduled maintenance period.

So I'm unsure if there is an Air Group assigned or if the AVGas tanks and weapons magazines are loaded.

"explosions on board"

Magazines were loaded.


1 SDFD reported injured.

SDFD reporting fire is out...

Fire is not out.


I count one Burke class DDG tied up on the opposite side of that pier.

In the close area, at least 5 LCS (both classes) boats. Two attack transports. One other Amphib (baby carrier).

Air Group was not loaded, still has shipping containers all over the deck.


Fire boats are hosing down the ships hull opposite the magazines.

SDFD withdrew, but the USN damage control teams are still onboard, still fighting.

That's what they do.

There are two Burke class DDG's tied up on the other side of that pier.


No indications of any attempts to move other ships out of the area. Spill boom is still up.

Fire seems contained to the main hanger deck.

Won't know for sure for a while.

===edit: never mind. Large amounts of black smoke coming from aft.

Worst of the fire seems to be in the hanger deck, directly under the SAW systems.

*SAM* systems...


One or both of the Burke class DDG's on the other side of that pier are going to need repairs as well, from heat and smoke damages.

Tugs are pulling one of the Burke class DDG's away from the pier. It's DDG 62 USS Fitzgerald.

Reportedly just 200 sailors and officers on board when the first explosion and fire began.

Only stream I can find for now...

Ground level from across the bay.

Close the chat window.

Confirmed: USS Fitzgerald is on the move.

Prior to evac.

Red and blue uniforms are USN damage control. Camo are USMC. All else SDFD.

Both of the DDG-1000's are in that port.

Both Burke class DDG's have been moved.

Harbor Patrol fire boats joined by big tug fire boats.

Still burning.


My assumption at the moment is that there is no ammunition* or AV fuel on board.

*The six SAM systems are almost certainly loaded.

Two 8-cell RIM-7 Sea Sparrow launchers.
Two 21-cell RIM-116 RAM launchers
Two 20mm Phalanx systems.

The missile launch containers can withstand a tremendous amount of heat. The Phalanx not so much.


Fuel burns are coming from the ships own engine tanks and other sources.

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USN fire teams have been fighting on the pier side.

Two USN teams are back on the ship.

Worst of the fire seems to have died down.

Likely so burned out that it won't be cost effective to repair her. She'll probably have to be scrapped.

A $1.5 billion ship.

Fires still burning. USN and Federal fire fighter teams on board.

Helicopters were used to drop water on the ship overnight.

Not seeing any of the fire fighting tug boats.

Almost all of the ships nearby have been moved - except for two of the LCS ships. One of the two DDG-1000's has been moved, the other is still pier side about 1000 meters away from the fire. All 3 other amphib ships are also still in place.

My count of ships that, for various reasons, were not moved as of 11:30am Monday...

LCS class - 9.
Burke class DDG - 8
Tico class CG - 1
DDG-1000 - 1
Amphib - 3 (number 4 is burning)
Cargo (various classes) - 11

All but one of the Freedom class LCS were moved. None of the Independence class LCS were moved.

Fore and aft islands and masts both melted down.

Bridge completely burned out.

Ship is listing. Onboard pumps never turned on.

Still has around 1 million gallons of AV gas in the bottom hold/tanks.


Fires were spread by burning vehicle fuel. Pouring water on them only helped them spread faster and further. Some auto foam/halon suppression systems worked, but ran dry quickly.

Harbor PD using all of their foam on the outer hull was useless wasteful.

Still listing (to starboard). Bilge pumps are non-functional. Still using helicopters to drop water on it.

Injury list is now at 57. Still no fatalities reported.

RADM Philip Sobeck: The contractors had gear staged in the well deck in the vehicle storage area, that's the best guess where it started.

400 sailors have been on board the ship fighting the fire. They acknowledge that there is some bad stuff burning


List is still increasing, both pier lines are tight, maybe all that's keeping her from rolling over.

Forward mast is completely down and laying across the remains of the bridge.


USN says all missile launchers were unloaded prior to fire.

List has stabilized (for now), but she's very low at the bow. Can't tell if the bow line snapped or if she's settled on the shallow bottom.

Seahawk helicopters still running nonstop, dropping water. 2 hoses from the pier and at least 1 big fire tug still operating.

No more black smoke (this is very good). Just thin white smoke and steam.

Unsure of what Big Navy is talking about, but...

USS Bonhomme Richard is done. She's burned out from end to end, listing, and has settled on the bottom.

Even if they replaced the entire interior, they won't know which hull and deck plates have been weakened by the 1000+ degree heat.

I saw a report earlier (can't find it now) that there were 500 and 1000 lb bombs in the magazines, but haven't seen that verified.

@voltronic Possible, but kind of unlikely.


All bombs after and including the Mk82/83/84 are designed to melt down rather than explode in a fire.

Yeah, I wonder how much they would get used on an amphibious assault craft. A carrier would be part of the battle group anyway, right?

Good to hear about the meltdown design.

@voltronic Direct close air support for USMC by the Harriers or Lightnings.

@ChippySuave Not yet. That may take a while to confirm.

Early reports were a welding accident.

So unfortunate.

I hope none of the injuries were serious or have long-term effects.


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If there is one small bright spot, it's that President Trump doesn't seem to have noticed yet and has not taken to Twitter to make things worse.

@Render still burning, geez, what went off on that ship?

@elmaxx Looks like USMC vehicles in their parking hanger.

@Render I hope they have proper safety for their lungs. 😱

One small bright spot in a long list of "Oh, holy shit"s.

@Render how toxic is that smoke? why haven't the other ships w sailors aboard not been moved yet? it seems we are leaving them in extreme danger w breathing toxic fumes during a pandemic

@MarianneWerzOBrien I think you may have asked this earlier and I forgot to respond, sorry.


1: No more or less than in a similar sized major building fire. That being said: There is a Shelter-in-Place order for San Diego in and around the pier area.

2: Aprox 1/3rd of the ships that were visible in the immediate area yesterday have already been moved (most last night). The remaining probably don't have functioning engines & skeleton caretaker crews. They do have oxygen masks/gear.

@Render good to hear - "No more black smoke (this is very good). Just thin white smoke and steam."

@Render Rest In Peace, USS Bonhomme Richard. Any word on the cause of the fire?

@ACG2 Not yet. Only that the fire started in contractors equipment stored on the vehicle deck.

Aren't there fire-suppression systems throughout the ship? Doesn't it have compartmentalization to enable containment.

Were the suppression systems disabled during repairs? Was the hangar fire just too big? How would this have played out during a battle (what would have been different - less fragile)?

Was there simply not enough crew on board to close hatches, etc to contain?

A fire during major repairs doesn't seem entirely surprising, but being able to get that out of control does.

Not expecting you have answers - but maybe some insights. This is tragic and shocking.


This isn't the first time (by a long shot).

And it certainly will not be the last time either.

Yeah, I saw the Russian carrier disaster - similar results. Given the recent, um, unfortunate accidents in Iran, I can't help but wonder if some of these "ooops, it caught fire/exploded while no one was looking" events might have had help (including Russian carrier). It's a hell of a lot less warlike to destroy something largely unmanned while under susceptible repairs than deliberately making it go boom at other times (like the Cole)


1: Yes, many.
2: Yes, normally.
3: Probably at least some were disabled.
4: Unknown, yet.
5: Depends, see 6 below.
6: Correct.
7: Perfect storms do exist.

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