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...wait, he's a teenager now? That can't be right. He must be a millennial who died as a teenager.
There's some weird Saint art, did you know that? Like, they're depicted holding chickens or their own severed breasts or even their entrails.
(Godless redneck over here who is nevertheless fascinated by this stuff...)
@janallmac I think I recall St Sebastian was flailed to death and is usually depicted carrying his skin folded over one arm 😱
@janallmac @stueytheround @LiberalLibrarian I didn't know about this guy who the Catholics are seeking to process.
Here is what the BBC are sharing today
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I'm fascinated and slightly heartbroken by the mortuary science happening here. Poor kid. 😢 Hope there's a heaven and he's in it.
@Mauve_matelot That is very sad. I hate reading things like this, especially when it's a kid. I have to say though that I don't mean this in a bad way, it's the cynic in me but I don't get how he (or anyone really) can achieve sainthood for healing people when they themselves die of a disease or illness.
I'm honestly not looking for an argument or religious blow-up. Perhaps I'm missing something, but that just doesn't make sense to me. 🤔
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Miracles don't make sense, but people always want to work them.
When I broke my leg, and was in a boot cast, my son and I went out to a Mexican restaurant, and there was a guy outside of the Mexican restaurant who asked me if my leg hurt (Not at the time) and if he could heal it, and I said, well, it's getting better, but sure, I guess, thanks, so he prayed over it.
He had good intentions, right?
@janallmac Oh I'm with you on that. Good intentions are fantastic and I also believe in mojo, healing vibes, positive energy, prayer, juju or however people manifest it, as long as it's meant sincerely. It's just the beatification of someone who does something that can't be repeated at will (and yes, partly being unable to heal themselves, but not exclusively that) that I don't follow. 👍
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Catholic saints gain their power through the idea of intercessory prayer. People pray in his name, for him to petition on their behalf, & when a prayer seems to be answered it's attributed to the intercessor. So "healing oneself" isn't a part of the equation because saintliness is about service *to others*.
(And as @stueytheround notes, if one loses their skin in the process, at least they gain a great accessory in future artwork! 😉)
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@MLClark That makes sense. Thanks! @stueytheround @janallmac @Mauve_matelot @LiberalLibrarian
Better question: What accessory would YOUR posthumous artwork be rocking, if you became a saint?
(Skin's taken!)
I've always found St. Martin de Porres' broom to be pretty rad, myself. :) You don't mess with a man with a halo who can sweep!
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@stueytheround Yes - well, I know the Wheel 🤢 😢
Which leads to another question that I could be in the right place for...
I probably don't know the full story of St Catherine in particular, but wasn't the story that the wheel fell apart at her touch? (As you can tell, I don't do too well with most stories of 'miracles')🤔
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