@janallmac I think I recall St Sebastian was flailed to death and is usually depicted carrying his skin folded over one arm 😱
@janallmac @stueytheround @LiberalLibrarian I didn't know about this guy who the Catholics are seeking to process.
Here is what the BBC are sharing today
@Mauve_matelot It's a kind of sweet story. Whether or not we believe in the miracles, it seems a young man was trying to do good things for people in the name of his God. He's worth celebrating in that respect, when we see the truly awful behaviour of many Western Christofascists. @janallmac @LiberalLibrarian
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I'm fascinated and slightly heartbroken by the mortuary science happening here. Poor kid. 😢 Hope there's a heaven and he's in it.
@Mauve_matelot That is very sad. I hate reading things like this, especially when it's a kid. I have to say though that I don't mean this in a bad way, it's the cynic in me but I don't get how he (or anyone really) can achieve sainthood for healing people when they themselves die of a disease or illness.
I'm honestly not looking for an argument or religious blow-up. Perhaps I'm missing something, but that just doesn't make sense to me. 🤔
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Miracles don't make sense, but people always want to work them.
When I broke my leg, and was in a boot cast, my son and I went out to a Mexican restaurant, and there was a guy outside of the Mexican restaurant who asked me if my leg hurt (Not at the time) and if he could heal it, and I said, well, it's getting better, but sure, I guess, thanks, so he prayed over it.
He had good intentions, right?
@janallmac Oh I'm with you on that. Good intentions are fantastic and I also believe in mojo, healing vibes, positive energy, prayer, juju or however people manifest it, as long as it's meant sincerely. It's just the beatification of someone who does something that can't be repeated at will (and yes, partly being unable to heal themselves, but not exclusively that) that I don't follow. 👍
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I guess that's why faith is faith and science is science? 🤷 I don't know, man, I have too many questions! 😂
Catholic saints gain their power through the idea of intercessory prayer. People pray in his name, for him to petition on their behalf, & when a prayer seems to be answered it's attributed to the intercessor. So "healing oneself" isn't a part of the equation because saintliness is about service *to others*.
(And as @stueytheround notes, if one loses their skin in the process, at least they gain a great accessory in future artwork! 😉)
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@MLClark That makes sense. Thanks! @stueytheround @janallmac @Mauve_matelot @LiberalLibrarian
Better question: What accessory would YOUR posthumous artwork be rocking, if you became a saint?
(Skin's taken!)
I've always found St. Martin de Porres' broom to be pretty rad, myself. :) You don't mess with a man with a halo who can sweep!
@MLClark Get him onto the curling team!
My Holy Relic would be a motorbike!
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@MLClark My avi *is* my posthumous artwork. I just got it in early so it was officially approved by the source 🤣
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Mine might be my ears, since we're apparently allowed to detach body parts once we attain sainthood. 😁
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There's a bunch of pictures of him in his glass-sided coffin, which I find unsettling.
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There's embalming happening, too, mark my words. I hope he'd be OK with his body being used that way, probably he would be?
@janallmac Definitely thrash! 🤣
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I mean. 😳
Is that metal or what?