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Having a surprisingly hard time deciding on a second choice after Warren.

@rpardee me too. I’m fond of her. She’s quirky and far from perfect but I think she will throw herself into doing whatever it takes and is smart enough to put the right people in place.

@rpardee Gotta be Biden, imo. Only alternative to either of them is Sanders, and he can't get anything through Congress as President.

@kel @rpardee none of them will unless the senate is flipped

@ibid Maybe, but where Biden or Warren could make the case to GOP voters, Bernie automatically precludes any possibility of consensus.

There isn't a single Republican anywhere that is going to work with an avowed socialist. @rpardee

@kel @rpardee they aren't going to work with any democrats. The senate is sitting on over 250 bills right now for example . Pretending they are interested in any sort of compromising is one of the reasons we have Gorsuch

@ibid I'm aware of that. That we've been mired in gridlock is a poor reason to vote for a candidate that *guarantees* more of the same. @rpardee

@kel @ibid Eh--I think they're both equally guaranteeing that. Not sure it's a discriminator between the two old men candidates.

@rpardee It's the socialism that makes Bernie unique. Any Republican that works with him is getting primaried, no matter what, because rational or not, Republicans have been very successful at making their people terrified of socialism.

Biden's a moderate. They won't *want* to work with him, but pressure from constituents changes that—and every candidate but Bernie has the potential to create that pressure, imo. @ibid

@kel @ibid I can't say that's crazy. But my intuition is different.

Mostly everything just sucks b/c Warren is the best person for the job, and that seems so clear to me that I don't understand how Biden is even still under consideration...

@rpardee Very much agree. Biden's a known quantity. He's familiar. His record isn't terrible, and his position in Obama's administration gives him a lot of credit, especially among moderates who have since realized that maybe Obama wasn't as bad as he was made out to be.

Also, let's face it. America still has a racism and misogyny problem. Lots of people will never support Warren purely on that basis alone.

She's my first choice, but to me, there's no choice about the second. @ibid

@kel @ibid I guess my ultimate consolation is that I don't get a second choice really. I have cast the one ballot I get for Warren, and I will vote/donate/work for whoever winds up being the nominee.

@rpardee @kel @ibid We said this about Adlai Stevenson too, I believe he lost...

@ibid @kel Yeah, my problem w/Biden (one of them) is that he (unaccountably) seems to think that once Trump is defeated, the GOP will return to some level of baseline reasonableness. That just seems psychotic to me.

My problem (one of them) with Bernie is that he puts a lot of stock in his coming "revolution" which will somehow cow the GOP into cooperation. Color me skeptical on that.

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