@rpardee Gotta be Biden, imo. Only alternative to either of them is Sanders, and he can't get anything through Congress as President.
@rpardee It's the socialism that makes Bernie unique. Any Republican that works with him is getting primaried, no matter what, because rational or not, Republicans have been very successful at making their people terrified of socialism.
Biden's a moderate. They won't *want* to work with him, but pressure from constituents changes that—and every candidate but Bernie has the potential to create that pressure, imo. @ibid
@rpardee Very much agree. Biden's a known quantity. He's familiar. His record isn't terrible, and his position in Obama's administration gives him a lot of credit, especially among moderates who have since realized that maybe Obama wasn't as bad as he was made out to be.
Also, let's face it. America still has a racism and misogyny problem. Lots of people will never support Warren purely on that basis alone.
She's my first choice, but to me, there's no choice about the second. @ibid
@ibid @kel Yeah, my problem w/Biden (one of them) is that he (unaccountably) seems to think that once Trump is defeated, the GOP will return to some level of baseline reasonableness. That just seems psychotic to me.
My problem (one of them) with Bernie is that he puts a lot of stock in his coming "revolution" which will somehow cow the GOP into cooperation. Color me skeptical on that.
@ibid I'm aware of that. That we've been mired in gridlock is a poor reason to vote for a candidate that *guarantees* more of the same. @rpardee