People in my neighborhood are setting off the loudest non-commercial fireworks I've ever heard. I don't know if M80s are still a thing, but I know my dogs are not loving it at all. 🤬
it's really terrible. Wish I could ban all amateur fireworks.
Wondering, would noise cancelling headphones work for dogs?
@artemis
I agree.
And no, they wouldn't. Because dogs hear so differently than we do, including much higher frequencies.
@voltronic
That's true.
But, why we don't have the technology to do it?
Hm, how about sound proof crates? like a musician room :-) w'd a dog still hear if inside such a room?
@TheAbbotTrithemius @artemis @voltronic
I suspect that they would be ineffective as dogs are likely more susceptible to the sound in their whole body. Ever been to a club and stood next to a huge subwoofer?
Imagine having that feeling inflicted upon you without your consent.
Possible. Dogs may sense the vibrations as well.
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@stueytheround @TheAbbotTrithemius @voltronic
I tried to get an answer from Alfred, but he's blabbering in circles. :--)
Why it's so difficult to have the proper technology for digs? We are going to Mars, and we cannot do a headphone for a dog?? how so?
@artemis
Noise cancelling is never as effective as noise isolating anyway. Think of ear protection made for firearms use, flight crews, etc. The most important thing to the effectiveness of those things working is creating a tight seal, and I don't think you're going to get that with fur unless the headphones are painfully tight.
@voltronic
good point !
but , what if we could have the technology to make them like earplugs, to fit inside?
@artemis
My dogs would never tolerate anything being put in their ears. Maybe others would.
@artemis I still don't think they'd make anywhere near as much difference as a well soundproofed room.
Any animal with a skeleton hears through bone conduction as well as their ear holes.
Put your fingers in your ears and hear your own breathing. That's how sensitive it can be. It's even used in some headphones.
https://top5-wirelessearbuds.com/uk/best-bone-conduction-headphones
I agree, it's hard.
OK, then soundproof crate shall be :-)
@artemis What you could try is a small room (or a large closet) and the old eggbox trick (cover every surface in paper eggboxes) which used to be the way musicians would create a home studio.
It'd be a lot of work, but would give pupper space to move around.
So, apparently there's a Zen dog crate $$$ )-:
@artemis Looks awesome but yeah. At that price I'd try the eggbox room first 🤣🤣
yes, or, take the dog on a trip, somewhere in the mountains, where there are fireworks :-) For that $$ could rent a nice cabin for a week :-)
@stueytheround where there are NO fireworks , duh
@artemis I knew what you meant 😁
@artemis Very true!
yes, chasing its own tail 🤣
@stueytheround @voltronic
@artemis
The Amazon reviews of those products are not very good.
ok, understandable.
We were talking w/Stuey abt a Zen dog crate, but yeah $$$
Am just curious what's possible, tho.
@artemis
Now that idea makes much more sense to me; and acoustic isolation box or room.
You'd need a whole lot of this, and somehow out of reach of the pets.
https://www.foambymail.com/product/acoustical-4-wedge-foam.html
@voltronic
You'd likely need to make a wall/foam/board sandwich.
@stueytheround @voltronic
Yes, foam all around.
I think it's worth a try building such a crate. Even if not 100% soundproof but perhaps some sound attenuation could alleviate anxiety a bit.
With a nice treat, some toys inside and perhaps some dog-appropriate melatonin :-)
Yes, and perhaps a tablet streaming dog movies such as Lassie Come HOme, Old Yeller and Benji.
@artemis If we can, they can.
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