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👎 Negatory, Robin. We should be dismantling the surveillance state, not expanding it.

Besides, our Elon's Best EVs are going to self-drive themselves through the school zone anyways.

@Smersh Vehemently disagree, specifically as it pertains to enforcing the rules of the road.

It's fucking anarchy out there.

@kel

I'm more worried about the fact that we're allowing Joe Blow and Co to buy gigantic pickups and soon to be EVs w/ greater mass due to the battery that do 0-60 in 2 seconds without a different license class. We need like a super-C class with increased training, lower point threshhold and additional insurance on that vehicle class IMO.

I'm anti-all that usually but like you said, folks are crazy out there but let's enforce it via the wallet.

@Smersh That to me is a separate issue, but an equally important one. It also underscores the importance of ubiquitous road surveillance and immediate consequences for imperiling others.

I also expect that it will get addressed as more people get killed by those vehicles.

@kel and this is why it's great we've got states! I'm guessing the traffic cams would be fairly popular in the PNW. Especially that curve on the 5 in Portland that folks can't handle even when it's not raining.

Whereas cities out here have been removing their automated ticketing devices since they increased accidents and the majority of the revenue went to the company operating them. I'm glad we're redirecting those resources elsewhere.

@Smersh @kel

In Texas red light cameras were made illegal.

Good.

Cameras are incapable of detecting actual conditions, just stupidly triggering (and I’ve watched them trigger on green lights).

People who create these devices do a shitty job. They are easily fooled, moronic in design and do not assure that the person driving IS IN FACT the one who broke the law.

You want safer roads? Limit cars to 55 mph.

But no one likes that idea.

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