@Render
Also, so what if Ukr *does* strike beyond its borders? Maybe the next time a Russian missile hits an apartment building in Kyiv, a Russian airfield or other strategic target goes boom. Works in Israel, at least temporarily.
Putin needs to feel more pain from his decisions. It's one thing to throw your troops and armor into the grinder, and be somewhat dissociated from them. It's another thing to be under threat you'll be hit back in your home territory.
@TrueBloodNet There is something to be said about Ukraine being nickel and dimed on support.
There is also the possibility that had all of the support that Ukraine has already received, been promised, or is already in the pipeline arrived all at once, that that would have been a red line that Putin could not have ignored.
@Render @voltronic Maybe, but the fact that Russia can continue to resupply, and hit and run across the border is strategically a losing game for Ukr. Biden could have instead gotten their promise (backed by built in repercussions) not to attack Russian cities but OK'd infrastructure like railroad lines, airport runways, bridges etc. and the ability to pursue fleeing Russian troops despite country lines.
@voltronic Ukraine has fired missile into Russia several times. Ukraine has also sent troops into Russia at least four different times.
If there was a red line there for Putin it didn't mean much.
@voltronic @Render ITA IMO this has been a deliberate handtying of Ukr to try to suck Russia's money dry.. but it's stupid as hell and doomed to fail