@voltronic Okay now that I've actually read the article I'm even *more* baffled on how this could be effective against a reasonably-secured OS. This isn't just pulling data off of a cache, but also requires actually installing software on the phone without user authentication. That shouldn't be possible, period.

@john_b @voltronic Oh this kind of thing works. It's an ancient technique. It's just another way of brute-forcing a password. But, it will fail if your device is properly secured with 2-factor authentication or other methods. Fortunately for cops, most people haven't a clue when it comes to security.

@sjvn @john_b @voltronic

Hold up: first, an iPhone will go into infinite lockout after a sufficient number of failed passcode attempts.

Second, you simply cannot install software onto an iPhone that you can't unlock.

Tell me how this "works" in light of these facts, because I can't see it.

@mcfate
That matches with everything I've read, but somehow these Graykey boxes are getting keyloggers onto locked iPhones.

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@voltronic @sjvn @john_b

Do you actually have evidence of that happening, aside from anecdotes that basically emanate from Graykey?

Me, I don't think most cops have a clue when it comes to computer security.

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@mcfate
Personally? No. But just search "Hide UI" and iPhone and you'll get quite a few articles stating this is a thing. Then again, they could all be wrong.

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@voltronic @sjvn @john_b

Well, if I just search for "sasquatch" or "adrenochrome vampires" or "antigravity", I can find "quite a few articles stating this is a thing".

@voltronic @sjvn @john_b

The fact is that either GreyKey seems to be full of shit, or Apple is full of shit, and I saw plenty of permanently-disabled devices when I was repairing them.

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