I have deleted my NaNoWriMo account. I could have deleted it last year but I didn't find out about the pεdophιlε issue until after they were already working on resolving it, so I gave them a chance. But openly supporting and encouraging people to use generative AI? Nope. They call it "ableist" and "classist" but what they're really saying is it's okay to cheat to get ahead of someone who's done the work.

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@ianthealy I have less of a problem with visual Ai art. I can also see Ai used as a tool for proofreading and editing as useful and timesaving, but I'm not an author.
I *am* a musician and I'm not going to lie, if I can use Ai to add elements to my music which I am unable to do as a solo artist (eg piano) then you're damned right I will use it.

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I’ve used it for visuals and to help kickstart some song lyrics.

It’s like having your own intern.

@mikeflstfi That's the thing. I think to dismiss a tool out of hand as cheating misses the nuance of how a tool is used. Spelling and grammar checks in a word processor aren't considered "cheating" but the truth is you no longer *have to* be good at spelling to be a writer.
If the Ai does *all* of the creative work from concept to finished product, that's a problem if it is then passed off as 100% human.

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@stueytheround @mikeflstfi It's the difference between generative AI and AI tools. Spellchecking, indexing, and similar don't require the AI tool to have been trained on other people's work. You give it a set of rules (a dictionary, how to create an index from a document) and it does it quickly and efficiently. If you ask your composition software to transpose something into another key, that's an AI tool, not generative AI.

@stueytheround Proofreading and editing is not generative AI (which was trained by scraping copyrighted materials without permission or recompense to the creators).

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