@kel life sentences for murderers not judges, or any elected or appointed officials. the public has no recourse as we are witnessing.

@kel @pennyphilosophy
I don't think it's possible to fully determine who is unimpeachably ethical. You're always rolling the dice a bit when appointing someone to such an impactful position, and lots of people put on a great dog and pony show in interviews / hearings. We might not know what nefarious dealings someone participated in until many years later.

This is *exactly* why we need term limits on every single elected and appointed government position.

@voltronic Term limits isn't the debate though, and I think injecting it here is one of those things that detracts from the problem of rote corruption among SCOTUS justices.

Like maybe we don't need to be pushing for a massive overhaul of SCOTUS. Maybe we just need to hold corrupt justices to account? @pennyphilosophy

@kel @voltronic overhaul necessary imo. justice would be good, but once ensconced, good luck with that. making judicial candidates run for office would help, tho most who are already run unopposed.
term limits limits their ability to build graft systems and judicial damage.
congress too.
our 'leaders' have to be wealthy or funded by wealth. that right there is where elitist governing denies opportunity to more citizens to have a go.

@pennyphilosophy I don't disagree, I just think that it's a bit like replacing a house full of furniture because a chair is broken.

Fix the damned chair. 😉@voltronic

@kel @voltronic house broken, friend
and on fire

@pennyphilosophy Nope.

That's the kind of rhetoric that guarantees that nothing ever changes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@voltronic

@kel @voltronic uh huh

@voltronic @kel agree, and ex officials must be barred from becoming lobbyists after terms end.