For someone who's never held elected office, Hillary Clinton was doing a fine job patting herself on the back for paving the way for Kamala Harris success on Maddow last night.
Okay, I didn't watch most of it. Or any of it, to be honest.
That self aggrandizing postscript Rachel fawned over was plenty.
DNC Old Guard? Your bus is leaving.
She was Senator, winning two elections before being appointed as Sec of State.
She was the first woman to run and get the popular vote only to lose the electoral vote.
It’s not self-aggrandizing, it’s history. She literally lost so Harris could win. Her loss opened the Presidency to women.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Senate_career_of_Hillary_Clinton
You're right, I even looked up "Hillary Clinton Senate" before posting that, saw Secretary of State, and didn't scroll further
She was probably the first politician who got me interested in politics, because of her fight for universal healthcare
yeah, I'm probably still kinda salty about that. And I might also still blame her for corrupting the DNC which "lost" Bernie's primary ballots, which unified the GOP in their hate to vote against her, which gave us trump, but I digress
And I think she once said she heard MLK speak, but still supported Goldwater, which seems weird.
I dunno, maybe I think if you cleared a path for others, then they should give you recognition.
Changing the final draft of your new book to give yourself credit for another's success is rather cringe, no?
To watch Kamala Harris and instead of showing immediate public support, she thinks
"yeah, I did that. Everyone should know that's because of me"
This attitude of reading a malicious darkness to HRC was also key in giving us a Turdmp presidency. It was manipulated incredibly well by Putin’s FSB Assange/Wikileaks psy-ops operatives mainlining propaganda right into the US mainstream via the useful idiots of the “alt-right”.
Many felt a nefariousness (and pedophilia, murder, evil) in her. It’s mind-boggling. She deserves plenty of credit for clearing the path for a woman POTUS. It’s a fact.
Okay, you lost me.
How does Biden have anything to do with Clinton breaking the glass ceiling?
@feloneouscat @TheAbbotTrithemius
I was referring to the casual suggestion of being a trump/putin operative.
Because I heard that a lot of that about two months ago for some reason.
Which has literally NOTHING to do with Clinton, glass ceilings or pulling women up.
Basically what you have criticized Clinton for, men do with impunity and are never questioned.
@feloneouscat @TheAbbotTrithemius
Which is why it wasn't referring to your point.
And in the unlikely event Bernie reverses his position on Universal Healthcare, I'll drag him too.
No, that’s not what I was suggesting. The dolts in the MAGA-verse then and now are Trump/Putin operatives.
I thought folks who wanted Biden to step down were being alarmist and he simply had a bad night and even then I thought he would’ve served another term well. But I think I may have been wrong in thinking he could win. The Trump campaign was going to eviscerate him on his age. Anyhow, I think it was his decision and I trusted he’d do the right thing and he did.
My full point, not clear I admit, is marveling at the hate and distrust HRC engenders. Even amongst my women friends who’re diehard libs and Dems, and my amazement (and theory) that the poison and character assassination thrown at her in 2016made her a toxic person to many, even Dems.
That whole year before Trump was elected in 2016 was such a dark primordial dawn of American fascism time period.
I don’t feel that about this time period FWIW.
While the list of things that I can't stand about her is extensive, I will say I have always given her credit for the way she handled the circus of eight separate televised Benghazi hearings that all lead nowhere.
Given how divisive she is within the left, I just think it's not the smartest move to unnecessarily reignite the past by having her do a book tour for herself right at this exact moment.
if it was my show, I'd get someone less problematic, like Maxine Waters.
I share your sense of not wanting to invoke anything or anyone from the past that may drag on Kamala’s momentum though.
Let’s keep things moving forward full speed, for sure.
@TheAbbotTrithemius @feloneouscat
Just curious, were you saying the same thing two months ago about the folks who were advocating for Biden to step down?