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@kenc313 @SalK

The problem I've seen here is that this place is overwhelmed with Nice White People who will in the split second after anyone posts about racism.
It's overwhelmingly GenX white and Boomer white, and those two groups are the biggest knee jerkers in the US.
It's absolutely not safe here for Black members to discuss anything specific to their experience.
And that's not politics. It's life. Life in the US is overwhelmingly racist.

@Shelter I wonder if that is where non-Americans like me can have an impact?
Yes I fall into the GenX white group and I'm painfully aware of how true it is what you're saying.

@kenc313 @SalK

@stueytheround

Your actual job as a white man is to call out that shit every time you see it because your voice carries more weight than anyone else's.
That's what you're supposed to do.

@kenc313 @SalK

@Shelter @kenc313 @SalK

With respect, this Boomer doesn’t want to be included in those generalizations.
And that’s . It’s not a generalization.

@ATXJane @kenc313 @SalK

It is a Not All.
And it's a valid generalization. I'm 52, solidly GenX, and my cohort does the same.
If you aren't included then it doesn't apply to you.
Period.

@ATXJane
The most important realization you can have as a white American is to understand that you carry racial bias. You might not like it, but it's the result of decades of your life of being exposed to the indoctrination that is a core value of this nation.
It's uncomfortable. That's good. It should be.
But not one single white person in this country doesn't have it
So rather than telling Black members to talk about what they want- genuinely support that while taking stock

@kenc313 @SalK

@Shelter @kenc313 @SalK

While I agree with your general point, you don’t know me. Don’t preach to me.

@Shelter @kenc313 @SalK

To reiterate, I agree with your premise but you’re making sweeping group level statements. It’s group level assumptions that are keeping us from knowing each other better. They make it harder to see the content of one’s character, to borrow a phrase from Dr King.

@Shelter @kenc313 @SalK

Talk about what you want to talk about. I’m here for it.

@Shelter @kenc313 @SalK

The generic basis of this problem is group assumptions. Assumptions about blacks, assumptions about whites, assumptions about responses, assumptions about generations.

All that makes it awfully hard to be seen as a worthy, loving, valuable, important human being. No matter who you are: your skin tone, ethnic/racial identity, gender, etc.
And it deprives each and every one of us from a greater expression of connection & loving ALL our human family.

@ATXJane

That's fundamentally untrue.
And it's a very privileged attitude.

@kenc313 @SalK

@Shelter @kenc313 @SalK

Your statement is a group based statement. I said I fundamentally agreed with the group level statement but that we have to break out of group level assumptions.

You are making an inaccurate statement about me.

@ATXJane I'm with you, there are a lot of assumptions being made..

Frankly I don't give a fuck what colour anybody is, either here or in in real life. It's not privilege either, it's literally seeing people for what they post & how they act rather than what their profile pic is. I've spent the best part of 6 years welcoming people here, regardless of colour, gender, age or anything else (well ok, except Trumpsters & trolls of course) 👍

@Shelter @kenc313 @SalK @stueytheround

@BillyBones @Shelter @kenc313 @SalK @stueytheround

Yes.
We’re all the same color at the soul level. At earth level I’m afraid we’ve not yet learned how to go from group level assumptions to seeing each other as individuals. And many people, if you can get to know them a little, are usually individuals who are genuinely trying to figure out a good approach to solving & healing horrible atrocities. We are so tiny in the face of trying to acknowledge massive wrong & participate in healing.

@Shelter @kenc313 @SalK i just joined Bluesky today. They seem tobe a lot more receptive to this particular conversation over there, although there's resistance there, too, naturally, for similar reasons as here

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