@CoyoteConscious I respect your point of view. The death penalty is not an easy thing to use. I can certainly see arguments for abolishing it.

@CoyoteConscious I don't see having a standard as being a double standard.

I support the death penalty in cases of particular brutality and inhumanity where there is no possible doubt about who is responsible.

Not many cases cross that line. This one, in my opinion, does.

Of course. Now that Rupert's choice, DeSantis, has definitively burned out, Fox has gone groveling back to Trump. Because that's where their viewers are, and profit is all that matters. Now their priority is to get #Trump to appear in their debate, because otherwise their cult audience won't watch and they won't make money off it.

@Helveticus That's where FL is right now - an angry "we're being victimized by anything liberal" mode where a majority would elect anything with an R.

It wasn't like that until 2020. Maybe it will recover. But not yet.

I really don't think Marco is this stupid, but he is this corrupt.

Trump didn't just SAY he thought the election was stolen, he actively conspired to stage a coup.

No "Democrat politicians" fought to prevent #Trump taking office in 2017. (And Russia did interfere in the election. Few claimed Russia hacked the actual vote tallies. That was never a mainstream position.)

@LiberalLibrarian Just when you think they can't shock you anymore...

@NorthernInvader A point I have pondered.

But on balance, I think even the small pleasures of simply being alive should be denied to particularly heinous criminals.

But I don't dismiss your argument.

@LiberalLibrarian If only he would really end up that way.

@LiberalLibrarian Yup.

However, since there isn't currently a moratorium, the Pittsburgh synagogue gunman definitely qualifies.

I support use of the death penalty only in a very limited number of particularly egregious cases where guilt is beyond doubt. (I also support a national moratorium on executions because the death penalty is so often used as a racial weapon, but that's a separate issue.)

This is one of the rare cases where I do believe the death penalty is appropriate.

@LiberalLibrarian Which would reduce the sugar load.

@LiberalLibrarian Sounds great, albeit high carb.

@LiberalLibrarian Please explain at your convenience what makes Cuban coffee distinctive. I am not familiar with it beyond the name.

@LiberalLibrarian The anti-anti-Trumpers are focusing on "ignore the facts, he can't be charged cause that's POLITICAL!"

Meanwhile Fox's top story this morning was "how the Trump indictment exposes Biden's conspiracy to hide the Hunter scandal."

There is no free speech right to subvert the election, and attempting a coup is not "political advocacy."

This is like saying "Charging my client with murder violates his right to believe the victim deserved to die!"

#Trump's lawyers are vowing to use the trial to "relitigate" every right-wing lie about the 2020 election.

They say that as if it's a cunning threat that will make Smith tremble.

It's hard to think of a worse 'strategy.'

I would also expect the judge will block most of their attempts to introduce such drivel.

I strongly suspect Jeff Clark will be the next to be indicted. Smith all but said the unindicted co-conspirators will follow in due course, but clearly he didn't want to slow down the main prosecution of #Trump.

Clark was openly calling for a military coup.

@LiberalLibrarian Now they'll pivot to "the indictment isn't strong enough!"

@SentinelOfTruth @LiberalLibrarian The wording most of them repeat comes from the NYT. Pure stenography... which is what poll-based reporting almost always is.

@LiberalLibrarian What a pity the NYT scientifically proved him the election winner today.

The entire punditocracy is treating like that poll as a definitive voting result representing the entire country 15 months from now. Because of course they are.