@Silabus No, someone on here. Very disappointing.

@LiberalLibrarian huh. just saying vivek cause this is one of his campaign topics "3. Human flourishing requires fossil fuels." dude's a fucking goober and who ever you talked to is on as well from the sound of it

@Silabus Oh good lord, this guy. Human technology expands by leaps and bounds. Fossil fuels are not necessary to this.

@LiberalLibrarian i agree i caint wait till we are on renewables for a vast majority of everything we do. being 30 i may just live long enough to see it happen. but if folks like the aforementioned goobers get into power then theres no chance in hell

@Silabus Vivek is an MLM dude who sees a grift.

@LiberalLibrarian there is a word which encapsulates what you just said. republican.

@Silabus Purty much.

@LiberalLibrarian We eat just one billionaire publicly and the rest will fall into line.

@ianthealy I mean, I don't want them *dead*. Just shorn of all wealth and power, and having to work in retail.

@LiberalLibrarian @ianthealy So just dragged behind a galloping stallion like a western movie?

@LiberalLibrarian @ianthealy

I'd settle for customer service. Preferably at the very businesses they once owned. Musk has to deal with angry Tesla owners. Bezos has to deal with people who never got their package, or got it late, etc. Zuck has to help grandmas who lost their password, know it was written down somewhere around here, sand are sure they're locked out because they didn't copy and paste that post their friend sent them about Facebook taking all your photographs.

@nblumengarten @ianthealy

YES! Make them take angry calls.

@invisiblecatmom I mean, I get it. We've fucked up. But I'm not willing to consign your kids, or my nephews, nieces, and grandniece to extinction for the sake of purity.

@LiberalLibrarian agreed. There have to be better ways to go about it. Education is key, hope is key... There's still time for us to learn, as a species, that we can contribute to and heal our planet.

@invisiblecatmom

There's a better form of nihilism.

@LiberalLibrarian

@Shelter @LiberalLibrarian probably way more forms than i am aware of, i am no academic. it's been worth it to shut up, sit back, and learn from others.

@invisiblecatmom

When you realize that ultimately anything we do means absolutely nothing to the universe at large because we are a very tiny part of it and that everything good you do matters not only for yourself but also to the world around you even if it's just for a moment- it's incredibly freeing.
Because every short moment dominoes, regardless of how little we ultimately matter.
In other words- Be Here Now. And be kind.

@LiberalLibrarian

@Shelter @LiberalLibrarian unfortunately this is not the path my mind takes. our lack of impact is what sends my mind to a dark place and so i have had to push that fact out of my mind. if we mean nothing, then i am too tired to care about others and especially myself and i find life meaningless, therefore my life is meaningless and i do not like to waste my time.

there were other ways for me to think in order to stay on this side of the grave.

@invisiblecatmom

Oh but we mean EVERYTHING.
Right here and Right now.
We are so fucking important it's dizzying.
Without the choices,for good or bad, my ancestors made I wouldn't be here and who I am.
I'm working on my children making differences in other people's lives.
We're very small, like Piglet, and very important, like Piglet.

@LiberalLibrarian

@Shelter @LiberalLibrarian i do think this mentality works for some, unfortunately it does not work for me. i do not think we are important, it is merely an opinion that i hold. i am careful with it and allow it to change as needed, however it is a very deeply rooted mentality that i have.