Watched some eps of a documentary show on abandoned places last night. It's unsettling to see how many of them are associated with WWII, & with the Nazis in particular. Seeing that again & again really underscores how hard all of Europe was hit by WWII & all that came with it.
We don't have a clue in the US, really.
The last time we had a war on US soil was the US Civil War, & half the nation glorifies that as an upholding of institutionalized racism & white supremacy. We've learned little.
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Oh, so you visit Europ. Every time I'm about to visit the US I stop at the check-in at the airport, back a way, turn around and cancel the trip. The Closet to the US I've managed to get my self is Aruba. Aruba feels safer as it is a small piece of Europe linked to the Dutch crown and Dutch protection.
@Lingitta I don't blame you, the US is uh... yeah, it's a bit of a mess at the moment. There are places that are better to visit than others, fwiw. I'm planning trips to NYC, LA & even Cape Canaveral at some point, to see the space shuttles. What is it that makes you turn around & not go?
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lt doesn't feel ok. I feel oppressed as a female, not being counted as an equal being. Husband worked a lot in the US once. He got some award and they wanted to write about him in the company newspaper. They wanted my name an picture And I said bloody hell no way. I'm not some trophy wife adoringly looking into to my husband eys. If they want to write about him please do but leave me and the children out of it. And now with these abortion laws there's no chance in hell I'd ever go
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Not that I am in need of an abortion it's the principal of a law like that. Seeing a female just like a brood mare. It's so bloody wrong in my eyes. And then there's health insurance. I don't want to feed that industry.
@Lingitta Fair. It's rough being her, knowing how things are like that. I wish I were able to leave, but a) I don't have the resources, & b) very broadly, nowhere I'd live particularly wants Americans & our bullshit.
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We’ve learned that we haven’t learned a damned thing.
@Impious_Jade: People learned a lot, but over time those people died. Then their kids died, and then their kids died. Then some folks decided, as people do, that the only problem with what evil was way back when was "just that they didn't do right" or "have good enough reasons., but we do". And so things begin again.
Ideas never ever, ever die, just as humans will always have a simultaneous positive and negative nature and capacity to choose either.
Every time I've visited Europe, too, the marks of both world wars are everywhere. Churches, especially. Sometimes it's hard to tell what's the focus of veneration at a church: is it war, or is it god?