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If Ashcroft sounds familiar it’s because he is the son of former U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft, under President George Bush. Ashcroft was a big proponent of torture to the point he said waterboarding is not torture.
Because everyone enjoys the feeling of drowning. 🙄
https://www.npr.org/2008/07/17/92642055/ashcroft-defends-actions-on-torture-memos