If this is accurate & true then eliminating OSHA itself is disaster after disaster in the making!
Don't get me wrong - OSHA is very overkill in many ways - but without OSHA all healthwise regulations will be at risk of being dropped!
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Having worked for a while for OregonOSHA, I found in no way did it overstep its mandate, or enforce unwarranted regulation. I found them over all, willing to talk, train, and work with private companies. Especially small local businesses that did not have the capital to run a training program. Now if you fragrantly broke the rules knowingly, yes they would come down hard on your ass.
@corlin I was specifically told by the CAL OSHA District Manager during a dispute conference that they they had one mechanism in their mandate: Issue Citations with fines.
We were issued 4 citations from a site walk 2 days prior to the deadline of 6 months from the date of the walk. All of the cited issues were addressed immediately on site except for a scratched sticker on a piece of equipment (replaced the next day and documented to the inspector). 1/2
@duglop
@corlin After the notification of the citations, I disputed one that was classified as "Serious". On a concrete deck (poured by others) there were protruding 5/8" allthread to be used to tie down structural framing. 2 or 3 out of 100 did not have protective covers over them. They protruded 3" above the concrete. The inspector determined them to be a Serious Hazard of impalement. (Fucking ridiculous) We appealed and got it reduced to a general citation. @duglop 2/2+
@Ironworker229 @corlin yeah this is kind of what I was alluding to when I originally said a lot of times it's overkill... Another thing is a lot of companies do the hurry up and fake it routine before an OSHA inspection, and then the inspector will find something that wasn't addressed but also was very very minimal, sometimes it would result in a fine and sometimes it would result in a general citation..
@Ironworker229 @corlin And then said company would once again fall back into old habits... If OSHA actually made more surprise inspections a lot of places would be heavily fined or cited, possibly even shut down depending on the severity I've been employed in places that were real bad safety-wise
@Ironworker229 @corlin oh yeah and this made me laugh one day and OSHA inspector came right out and told us it really depends on the mood of the inspector as to how severe an inspection can be. We thought he was bullshitting and he looked right at us and said he was dead serious...
@Ironworker229 @corlin there's many parts of it that I'm concerned about but one thing I really am concerned about is allowing smoking in the workplace... I just don't even like the sound of that but it is a very real possibility... I quit smoking for a reason I don't want to potentially put myself in subjected harm's way at work trying to make a living
@duglop Yup. Same with cops or the person behind the counter at the DMV!
@corlin