update:

Despite all you nutters with your chaos of submissions formats (I kid - it's actually very true to the creation process of a classic 'zine!), we're closing in on a final layout.

We're looking at a 24-pager, once @JeniRizio has sent along a follow-up email.

Colour and formatting tweaks next, but I also need the names you want to go by! (Anon's covered.)

@ceorl, @corlin, @AndersonArtwork, @POOetryma, @jenebene, @Boyceaz, @JGSchaeffer, @IrelandTorin, @redenigma, what'll it be?

@MLClark @JeniRizio @ceorl @AndersonArtwork @POOetryma @jenebene @Boyceaz @JGSchaeffer @IrelandTorin @redenigma

Great news.

Sign anything by me with the single name "Corlin"

Also ?
is this 24 pages of 8 ½ x 11
or
24 pages of 8 ½ x 5 ½

?

@corlin @JeniRizio @ceorl @AndersonArtwork @POOetryma @jenebene @Boyceaz @JGSchaeffer @IrelandTorin @redenigma

24 pages of 8 ½ x 5 ½!

I have colour options set up (pantone equivalents noted), but we can all chat about those once the last of the content is in, and the formatting tweaked. Close to the finish now! (Herding cats is easier, but we get the job done eventually. 😉)

@MLClark @JeniRizio @ceorl @AndersonArtwork @POOetryma @jenebene @Boyceaz @JGSchaeffer @IrelandTorin @redenigma

Great.
Thanks For all your hard work.
I will give a shout out to the printer, tell him it is coming along.

@corlin

When the files are ready, I know to make sure the colour is in CMYK (as opposed to RGB: better for matching to the colour-library on site), but would your printer prefer the pages in 8 ½ x 11 format (i.e., following the standards for double-sided printing, so pages 1 & 24 together, 2 & 23, 3 & 22, etc.) or as a file with 24 separate pages for him to arrange instead?

(When I worked as an EIC, we used to send out materials 4 by 4 at a time: four colours, four pages on one broadsheet.)

@MLClark

I don't know for sure. I will ask

But best practice Is to lay out 8 ½ x 11 boards, "print and turn". "self cover".

btw
print and turn means ...
if you are holding the layout boards landscape, page 1 in on the left side, and then page 2 is also on the left side.

so Yes 8 ½ x 11 format (i.e., following the standards for double-sided printing, so pages 1 & 24 together, 2 & 23, 3 & 22, etc.)

@corlin

👍🏻 Yes indeed! I did this often in another life. Standard file format for double-sided printing will be my default unless I hear otherwise. Thanks for confirming!

@corlin

Actually, let's just quickly confirm process, because usually it goes "back page front page", not Page 1 on the left.

So I'd be laying out the sheets:

24-1
2-23
22-3
4-21
20-5
6-19
18-7
8-17
16-9
10-15
14-11
12-13

Do you have a print set-up that would require a different order?

@MLClark

Ok that will work.

we call that "work and tumble"
This going to print on a 8 ½ x 11 press.

So "work and turn" means all the sheets go through the press the same way, meaning the "header" or "gripper" in on page 1 then turn the paper and "gripper is on page 2. each sheet has the same gripper margin at the same end.

Work and tumble means the paper is tumbled, head over tail. as is goes through the press, for second side.

@corlin

Gotcha.

I'm used to larger industry processes where four pages are processed at once, but always with the aforementioned order between pairs.

This is great! I learned something today - even if I still can't quite visualize how a left-sided Page 1 works.

Thanks for clarifying, and introducing a different process to my life!

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@corlin

This is why I was confused for a second, but you hadn't mentioned the flip. This is the standard process for a 4-page broadsheet, too, but without the mention of flipping one sheet I was confused.

So, if it helps, I can set up the file with the following 8.5 x 11 boards:

24-1 (but upside down, so 1 is on the "left" visually)
2-23
22-3 (upside down)
4-21

and so on, and so forth.

Your image still doesn't make sense with P1 (it would be upside down when folded), but the reverse works.

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