#NorthCarolina is enacting photo ID to vote in the future elections. No biggie right?
Problem is when you renew your license there’s a new document #NC requires a copy of your birth certificate. No biggie right?
Nope, they want a NEW one from your birth city
this can cost up to $80 or more if working through a third party if you were born out of state, and no guarantee you can get it before the 3/5/24 primary
it is a poll tax
@Tarnagh @Kinnison
A bigger issue is that older Black people born in rural areas didn't get accurate birth certificates. No one anticipated the details of their birth ever being of concern to anyone. So when the midwife made it down to the county seat, she'd submit all the birth records for the month, and they'd record that as the date of birth for all of them. I know someone with three different dates of birth and four different spellings of her name in various official records.
new birth certificates cost $$
and obviously the State department is probably underfunded and understaffed and might have difficulty making new ones due to the volume of requests
@Kinnison @Tarnagh
No one is going to risk a criminal charge to cast a single fraudulent vote in person.
But a political party with a large number of precincts where the voter registration is so lopsided by party that both election judges are actually from the same party -- they can cast a half dozen extra votes at each of hundreds of precincts and make a large difference.
@Kinnison A NEW birth certificate? What is their reasoning? I’ve never heard of such a thing.
@Kinnison Seriously? I don't renew until 2027 so it will probably change 3 more times by then.
@Kinnison People can order a new birth certificate if they've lost their old one for any reason by contacting the vital statistics bureau in the state or county they were born in, but you're right in that there are often fees that many can't afford. In Massachusetts, where I was born, a copy of my certificate is $54, and takes weeks to receive. This disproportionately affects the young, the poor, and the black community, groups that tend to lean Democratic. This, of course, is the point.
@Kinnison Source? I just renewed mine and did the Real ID thing and they accepted my birth certificate that I’ve had for eons from the Register of Deeds. I’m not seeing it stated anywhere that you must have a brand new one.
just came into effect this year.
You need the original or certified copy of your birth certificate. Some states do not send certify copies or you can get ones that are not certified that are cheaper.
this info can be found online
Now if you are a NC resident it probably isn't an issue.
that is kind of the point of the new law. Only affect those out of state and someone who lost a birth certificate and needs a new one
Next step "Show me your papers".
@Kinnison
My birth city doesn't keep vital statistics records. That's what the state vital statistics office is for ... as a bonus, the hospital I was born in hasn't existed for decades. Thankfully I live in Maine.
And has North Carolina clarified if this one-time (obvious poll tax) fee is really "one time," or are people going to have to prove their existence every year?