is enacting photo ID to vote in the future elections. No biggie right?

Problem is when you renew your license there’s a new document requires a copy of your birth certificate. No biggie right?

Nope, they want a NEW one from your birth city

this can cost up to $80 or more if working through a third party if you were born out of state, and no guarantee you can get it before the 3/5/24 primary

it is a poll tax

@Kinnison

My birth city doesn't keep vital statistics records. That's what the state vital statistics office is for ... as a bonus, the hospital I was born in hasn't existed for decades. Thankfully I live in Maine.

And has North Carolina clarified if this one-time (obvious poll tax) fee is really "one time," or are people going to have to prove their existence every year?

@Tarnagh @Kinnison
I suspect there is some provision when you request a birth certificate that you don't have to pay if it's for voting, specifically to get around the poll-tax issue. Too easy to get the laws thrown out in court, otherwise. Not sure how they handle out of state births, though.

@Tarnagh @Kinnison
A bigger issue is that older Black people born in rural areas didn't get accurate birth certificates. No one anticipated the details of their birth ever being of concern to anyone. So when the midwife made it down to the county seat, she'd submit all the birth records for the month, and they'd record that as the date of birth for all of them. I know someone with three different dates of birth and four different spellings of her name in various official records.

@AlphaCentauri @Tarnagh

new birth certificates cost $$

and obviously the State department is probably underfunded and understaffed and might have difficulty making new ones due to the volume of requests

@Kinnison @Tarnagh
And if you WANT voter fraud, let absolutely anyone register to vote with no ID, then ask for ID at the polling place. You end up with a lot of votes that won't be cast. It's almost as good as having a list of dead people for whom you can cast votes.

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@Kinnison @Tarnagh
No one is going to risk a criminal charge to cast a single fraudulent vote in person.

But a political party with a large number of precincts where the voter registration is so lopsided by party that both election judges are actually from the same party -- they can cast a half dozen extra votes at each of hundreds of precincts and make a large difference.

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