Speaker Mike Johnson believes that the Ark and the Creation Museum are fact and based in history.
Okay smart guy. Show me where the bones of Jesus are, go ahead.
@Wbtphdjd @JKxZ And yet Jesus never told anyone to believe in Genesis -- or in much of anything. He mostly said "do this," not "believe that."
At this point in history believing in Creation is a statement of allegiance to a certain subculture and all its other tenets, and a rejection of reason and the epistemology that got us out of the Dark Ages.
@JKxZ
You won't find his bones anywhere, because:
At the end of Jesus' time on Earth, he was taken bodily into Heaven. It's called The Ascension. There's a holy day for it, complete with paintings & masses & sh*t. Cool how religion explains everything, huh?
Just don't tell Mike Johnson.
@jjGravitas fact is no one has any historical evidence that Jesus even existed.
It’s easy to explain what a myth is and what the myth told everyone to do and be when it curves to the arc of your intentions.
@JKxZ @jjGravitas Josephus actually has two potential references in his texts about Jesus:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus
And also there are the gospels - while like the Guide, for through it has many omissions and contains much that is apocryphal, or at least wildly inaccurate, it is a somewhat contemporary (being based on stories told amongst the faithful) that we can surmise that there was a Jesus.
@JKxZ @jjGravitas We do not doubt that there was a Siddhartha Gautama, despite the fact that many of the writings about him are religious, after all.
The Bible is far from a reliable historical reference, but considering the after effects of Jesus’s life, then there would have had to be a historical person to cause those effects.
The divinity/miracles exist separately from the historical personage, but historically, it’s safe to assume there was actually a Yeshua of Nazareth.
@EnochianEntropy your source is writing nearly 100 years after the existence of the mythical Jesus.
It’s safe to assume 100 years of oral tradition is as accurate as the “history” of Robin Hood. 😒
@JKxZ So Peter just wandered into Rome and started the Catholic Church for funzies?
@EnochianEntropy opportunists find opportunities.
@JKxZ I've been told that Jesus is mentioned in the Koran. If so, that would make Jesus an historical person.
@jjGravitas copying existing models for fame or legacy are an opportunists strongest tools.
@JKxZ he believes dinosaurs were on the ark. Let that one sink in.