It's a trigger-fest in here tonight.
Happy fuckin Friday.
@stueytheround hmm?
what's going on? mind you, just got home myself
@elmaxx Just scroll your timeline.
Hate, most of it political.
Everywhere.
I'm done.
@elmaxx I'd like it to stop.
I'd like my filters to actually work.
I'd like people to stop acting like spewing hate is ok if it's aimed at your enemies, as though it doesn't hurt everyone who sees it.
Just because it's aimed at MAGA, or HAMAS or Putin or whomever it's ok to hate this week, doesn't make it any less harmful or damaging.
@stueytheround @elmaxx
People do not have the first clue how to love their enemies. And they're scared half to death. 🤷 More so when they're knowledgeable. And they say whatever they think from a keyboard, with fewer filters?
That's all I've got. I suppose you already know this.
yall cannot be seriously expecting folks to love their enemy that wishes them death.
that's so abusive to victims.
I mean no offense.
@janallmac @stueytheround @elmaxx
if you told me I should love my rapist - I'd tell you your the reason most victims stay silent. The utter lack of compassion to the suffering victim is damaging.
Just cause *you have the space to hold the high ground and quote noble things doesn't equate to victims having that capacity, unfortunately for them.
@Armchaircouch You're talking to a CSA survivor.
Just so you know.
I'm not telling you who to love or hate but I fon't think it's unreasonable to ask, in a public forum which prides itself on safety, to stop spewing hateful bile against one's enemies while simultaneously acting outraged when they do the same to us.
One rule for "us", one for "them"
Hating "us" is bad, hating "them" is good.
I call bullshit.
@Armchaircouch
My goodness. No one is telling you to do anything, I'm certainly not! Not at all.
Doesn't mean people won't long for a break from hate and anger.
@janallmac I'm trying very hard not to take Kat's "you're the reason" comment rather personally given my own history. 😢
I'll clarify - that responding publicly at people who are victims of hate, telling them that they should not be feeling loathsome for their enemies, doesn't actually help the victim.
You can then relate.
It obvi. bothers you all to see it here, but this is a reflection of our environments - they are diverse. You mentioned, Hamas, Stu. There are about 2-4 people who post about that here. Add em to your hundreds, get that shit out of your feed.
@stueytheround @janallmac @elmaxx
@Armchaircouch Now do everyone who posts hatefully about GOP, TFG, Gaetz, etc etc etc etc.
@Armchaircouch I'm not saying that they don't *deserve* the vitriol, I'm saying it's ubiquitous and utterly unavoidable.
@janallmac @elmaxx
@stueytheround Sorry mate, I'm with @Armchaircouch on this.
It's admirable that you're built differently, but many either aren't or don't want to be. I'd guess that those who are posting about GOP, TFG, Gaetz, etc are ostensibly people who are sick of seeing criminals not face penalties while good people don't get away with shit. That's a big part of this (imo) and also in my opinion, a decent enough reason to spout hate towards them.
(cont...)
Not to mention (of course) that the hopes of half the Western world just got dashed for at least the next 4 years literally because bad people got away with doing bad things.
We can't do much about it from here right now, but having a bloody good moan is at least a bit therapeutic. 👍
That is a fair point, for many people it is therapeutic because they cannot vent to their families.
My daughter's grandmother finally unleashed last night about Elon Musk because she cannot speak up in her own household or else her head will get ripped off. I'm sure for a lot of people here at similar story. @BillyBones I feel you though, Stu. I think, the folks here deserve the same compassion from us that your asking them to give their/our 'enemies'.
@stueytheround @janallmac @elmaxx
(Pssst...
It was me who brought up love your enemies, not Stuey. He wasn't asking for anything but a break. 💜 I just said people were bad at it. Which they are. )
:) you are very sweet. i think ya'll were both in the same vein of thought, but yes it was your post i chimed in on, Stu then responded to me. @janallmac
@Armchaircouch Absolutely and if I came across as discomoassionate then I apologise.
FWIW When I say we ought to "love our enemies" I by no means define that as letting them off the hook. Evil deeds have consequences and part of truly loving someone is ensuring that those consequences are applied correctly. Justice and love are inextricably linked in my opinion. Forgiveness is a whole different conversation for another day ❤️
@BillyBones @janallmac @elmaxx
forgiveness is a pill that can only be swallowed when the swallower is ready, if they ever are, that's for sure!
And if I came off discompassionate to all of your guys' frustration I apologize as well. @stueytheround @BillyBones @janallmac @elmaxx
@Armchaircouch I consider myself incredibly fortunate to have been able to swallow that pill.
It was not easy at all. I'm glad I did it, but I completely understand those who never can, or don't even want to.
Same here, and it took me a while, and to be honest, it was also unexpected! @stueytheround
I know, and I'm grateful for people who use keywords to hit our filters! Many don't unfortunately. Frankly I've just gotten good at scrolling quickly past and ignoring it.
I feel you dude, 100%
@stueytheround you can easily fill the thread with positive, happier things, we all can. Either that or be sucked down in the glum - don't get sucked in man!
@Armchaircouch God knows I'm trying.
But being bombarded with hateful rhetoric daily is wearing me down. I'm running out of well, everything really.
I come here every day to meet people I love and I have to trawl through some horrible stuff to get to them. Often it's being posted *by* them and my heart hurts so bad! It makes me want to just walk away and never come back.
So. Much. Hatred. 😢
@janallmac @elmaxx
I know, same here...
You're maybe empathetically feeling their pain, too, and it's overwhelming.
it's gunna be a rough time ahead. I hope you can find a way to cope, stay UP even, and stick around. @stueytheround @janallmac @elmaxx
@Armchaircouch I don't *want* to go away from here, but it is an option I'm leaving on the table. I plan to stick around, but I've given myself permission to talk about leaving. I know some folk would be upset, and it would hurt me too.
IF I go. I promise not to just rage quit. I will talk with you all and we can do it together in a healthy way.
@janallmac @elmaxx
well, Maybe just take a step back otherwise you'll have to make a whole new account and it's fun having an old account here imo :)
here, for you, Queen,
Keep Yourself Alive
@stueytheround @janallmac @elmaxx
@stueytheround
You are not personally the reason. That's hyperbole.
So maybe we're not God or some divine being. We are human! And you cannot control humans or make them stop being emotional or silly.
I think people can be a little less hateful. In general.
@Armchaircouch @stueytheround @elmaxx
No, it is demonstrably unrealistic. But constantly being exposed to hate and anger is painful for some people.
definitely, agreed. my mute/block list is ove 40 long. @janallmac @stueytheround @elmaxx
@Armchaircouch I'm in the hundreds. @janallmac @elmaxx
@Armchaircouch Yes. I am. It's how I'm built. I'm asking people to stop *being* that which hates them. "Hate can not drive out hate. Only live can do that." MLKjr
@janallmac @elmaxx