*sigh*
Small caliber semi-auto handgun.
Probably from the stands to his right rear (viewers left). We'll have to wait for video from or of that location (and there will be at least some) to confirm what happened to the flurry of follow up rounds that were fired. It's possible those were fired as the shooter was being tackled by bystanders.
Not a professional.
*sigh**sigh*
It was a rifle.
From a rooftop just outside of the event.
Witness saw the shooter on the roof before he fired. Told police and Secret Service. They did not arrive at the scene in time to prevent the first shot.
The flurry of follow up shots was law enforcement killing the shooter.
The reason why it sounded like small caliber fire is the distance from the recording microphones.
50 to 65 meters ??
@corlin 125 meters (400ft).
Some time in the future, when more confirmed evidence comes in. I will share my thoughts, from the perspective of a long rifle competitive shooter. Right now is not the time, nor the place.
Me I could even at 73, run hard for 100 meters, fall, set, and shoot. And hit a 1 inch group at 125 meters…but I have had years of practice. Muscle memory.
So I don’t know what happened.
My current weapon for long distance competitive shooting is a
Barrett MRAD in .338 Lapua.
I dunno about the run hard part these days. Best I can do is a brisk walk.
Also, I'm sticking with 30-06 because after several hundred thousand rounds (guessing at that) I know exactly where every round is going to go, and what it will do when it arrives.
@Render @corlin @AlphaCentauri anyone know the distances of shooter to target? I'm just curious!
@Render @corlin @AlphaCentauri ... ... ... fucking hell. So the shooter was blind. Had to have been yeah?
Much of that will depend on the rifle in question and how it was set up (was it zeroed properly). The assassin familiarity with the rifle would also come into play.
@Render @corlin @AlphaCentauri 100% true sir.. at that distance.. holy fuck.. someone tell Agent Orange how fucking lucky he was!
@Render @Idrake @AlphaCentauri
yep.
There are hundreds of factors...
Many still unknown.
No not blind, just not experienced.
#Render have you checked the weather report for the time. Any wind ??
@corlin @Render @AlphaCentauri At that distance you don't need to really lead a target too much even.. unless there was gale-force winds.. it has to come down to inexperience
@corlin @Render @AlphaCentauri Sources said Crooks was planted on a roof of a manufacturing plant more than 130 yards away from the stage at Butler Farm Show grounds.
Video shows a warm sunny day, some wind, but not enough to effect a rifle shot at that range.
@Render @corlin @AlphaCentauri
Donald is actually lucky to be alive. Seriously, no effing joke.
And that 20 year old kid that did it, fuck him!
@Render
Thanks.
I agree, do we know the round, yet?
223?
We do not. All we know is "AR pattern". We also don't know barrel length or make.
5.56mm is reasonable assumption from that.
Understood.
30-06 much cheaper, and can be found at any WallMart, in quantity.
.338 L very expensive, But much more reliable at 1,200 to 2,000 meter range.
@AlphaCentauri @corlin
Everybody that has completed basic training in the US military can (supposedly) shoot an M-16 accurately out to 500 meters.
Depending on optics/practice 600 to 800 meters is expected from designated marksmen.
The 2nd sentence may be dated, I'm not sure what the Designated Marksman expected ranges are these days, it might be more.
The assassin was not accurate. He missed everybody until he fired into the crowd.
This does not imply the shooter had any training at all.