@fernfren I keep getting excited over these leaves that look more like phylum (? google wants to define this like kingdom/phylum/species but I swear I've heard something similar as non-trap leaves and this is a slow brain day) than traps. When I've seen the leaves with wings bigger than the traps, they tend to be smaller. I have an excitement that maybe Judy is about to throw up some much larger traps in her near future because these are so big. Is my excitement merited?

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@fernfren By the way, just behind her is Celia, the one I put in a larger pot on your recommendation, she is doing well and starting to show more color.

@tippitiwichet

oh your family is beautiful and thriving, love to see it!

it's phyllodia! plural is phyllode. not sure on the pronunciation of either, bc i have never heard it spoken and only just ran across it in print sometime this past week.

it was in the context of some species producing phyllode in spring vs fall-- S. leucophylla produces its largest traps in the fall and will produce phyllode in spring, whereas (i think it was flava) is the opposite.

but yes...

@fernfren Yay! She must be enjoying the gut-loaded mealworms I feed the frog and occasionally slip to her.

@tippitiwichet

nice! mine are outside, so who knows what they're eating but i occasionally give them a little Max Sea, as a treat. the judiths don't seem to get indigestion as bad as some of the other hybrids. she really has the best color in my bog right now.

my purpureas have all been suffering, i think they really hate drying out more than anybody else, need to step up my supplemental watering during hot/dry spells

@fernfren Also, there is a marked difference between the purple pitcher plant I have outside, and the one I keep inside as "backup". The one outside is smaller, yellower, and only has a couple of traps. Inside is much better, and it's a clone of the same plant. I think climate change might be affecting the whole "these are porch plants" perspective.

@tippitiwichet

it seems to me that purpurea is just a more finicky plant-- it's one of the few straight species that is widely sold-- hybrids tend to be a bit sturdier and adaptable. purps likes the stability you're providing inside 😉

& the native range of purps is pretty far north, so yeah-- the excessive heat is a big turnoff. i'm on the far southern end of purps range-- other species are more suited to the heat in my latitude bc this is their neighborhood

e.g. Hammerhead is thriving

@tippitiwichet

Hammerhead looks to me like he might get his slouchy growth habit from pupurea, but his low hoodie from S minor. and then the greenness of him says maybe oreophilia was a parent. i love to look at the traits and try to figure out the lineage... but that's going to get harder and harder as ppl continue breeding new hybrids generations deep. is fascinating to me tho... excited to see any hybrids that might pop up in my bog in the coming years

@fernfren I'm on that southern range too, which makes me surprised I lost all my southern purple pitchers and only the northern survived. Hmm. I was planning on randomly cross pollinating whatever I could grow within my range for hybrids and letting nature sort it out, but maybe I can forget the range and just buy more lights. It seems like I should let them sit in the sun, but man seems to be wanting to dominate nature to the point that we all breathe fire, so...

@tippitiwichet

it is my understanding that those big wings are for soaking up sun to feed the roots and in turn produce big ol traps.

so the googs is telling me that Judith's parents are (S. purpurea x S. flava) x S leucophylla-- and y'know-- i can totally see that-- i see aspects of all 3 of those in her hood & body shape and the way she grows. but as for her growth patterns, i don't know who she takes after in that respect! she's one of my best performing plants.

@fernfren Oh, yes. I've totally seen her heritage in play, and when I first got her it was only because she's available and accessible, she's been cloned for years, after all. I thought I was just getting what was still in the store, but as she grows, I fully understand why she's in all the carnivorous plant shops, she's just magnificent. These aren't even the best traps I've seen of her, if anyone is eavesdropping and wants to know what carnivorous plant to buy first, it's Judith Hindle.

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