No in our great country.

The Fox News host who President-elect Donald Trump just announced would be his nominee for secretary of defense was not allowed to work security at President Joe Biden’s 2021 inauguration, supposedly because of a tattoo that military higher-ups believed might have been an extremist symbol.

huffpost.com/entry/pete-hegset

@nursefrombirth As a Christian I might have given him early tattoos but Deus Vult is white supremacist.

@nursefrombirth i.e. I wouldn't automatically make claims about cross tattoo or celtic tattoos because I know people that have them who do not support extremists. But Deus Vult is the white supremacists who hate muslims, jews, gays, poc.

@AnnetteTRemain School me! I don't know much about extremist symbols, seems I need to learn now. 🤔

@nursefrombirth Which part the Deus Vult or the celtic/nordic? Multiple articles can be found on deus vult. They were chanting it in Charlottesville. A lot of the white nationalist crusader stuff got popular with online gang forums where they infect our young. history.com/news/how-hate-grou

@AnnetteTRemain Good article. The Deus Vult is what I'm not familiar with.

@nursefrombirth Some of the trolls I messed with on X were Deus Vult. These guys are very nazi, i.e. they can hint Hitler wasn't wrong, but they are coy nazi types like Spencer. They nest most of it in western civilization romance where one can draw conclusion we are better without usually outright saying it. It's a way to get people to accept white nationalism without knowing they are. I don't know how many people know what actual nazi speech sounds like.

@nursefrombirth I will try to say this carefully to avoid someone taking it the wrong way. The "best" recruitors for nazis and klan do not "sound" nazi or klan. If one listens to many David Duke or Richard Spencer speeches or even early Hitler the focus is on romanticism of the past and how we can be so much better than what we are. It's a sirens song. If you are familiar with sirens they used to lure men to their deaths.

@AnnetteTRemain @nursefrombirth

:cosign: Annette, I know exactly what you mean by this. I have heard that siren's song myself. They don't sound hateful at first and to the casual listener, they start out sounding rational.

(I'm half deaf and kind of weird, though.)

That's the scary thing about those songs, though.

They start out sounding harmless, and they come from the mouths of people who call themselves geniuses and protectors.

Next thing you know, there's a holocaust or lynching.

@janallmac Yes. I started listening to several when the alt right burst onto scene with Trump. Not out of love. Know your enemy. The propaganda people weren't what I quite expected. It's usually what they are NOT saying or the implications of what they've said so far that are the problem. Once you know what the speech sounds like you start noticing how many people parrot them. @nursefrombirth

@AnnetteTRemain @nursefrombirth

Yep, they start using catchphrases.

And, they start talking about Ayn Rand a lot and telling everyone else how great they themselves are. 🙄 They tend to be very, very proud, but not in a fun or harmless way, in a "look how much better I am than you are" way. And they think everyone else is stupid.

It's a whole vibe, you know? And for me, a huge red flag. 😟 Thank you for sharing the info!

@AnnetteTRemain @nursefrombirth

Oh, and you know what else they do? People who have become drunk on this siren's song? They start claiming expertise they don't have. Expertise you know for a rock-solid fact they don't have, often medical expertise or similar.

@AnnetteTRemain @nursefrombirth
Anyway, sorry for rambling. This struck a nerve. Love to you both.

@janallmac Not rambling. I like running into people who have watched them too. There are hours of my life I can't get back watching some of them discuss sand measurements in skull as evidence of intelligence which was debunked like 100 yrs ago. They do a lot of crackpot science. @nursefrombirth

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@AnnetteTRemain @janallmac Thank you both so much. Look forward to exploring a bit further.

@nursefrombirth I've been following them for 8 years. If you start immersing yourself remember to take breathers and look at good things. @janallmac

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