Are you an 18 year old in the UK?
Fuck your uni studies.
Fuck your job.
Fuck that person you’re caring for.

Who is going to employ any school leaver, knowing they’re going to be pulled into National Service when they turn 18?

*extract from todays Telegraph

@mickcarty
I'm from the US so I'm not clear, does this mean mandatory military service? For how long?

@Bliss
For one year in the military, or for one weekend per month for a year with essential services such as the police, fire department, or NHS

@mickcarty @Bliss

So, if you have a job or are a student, you take the weekends option.

Me, I think mandatory national service for high school graduates is a fine idea. Get some skin in the game, learn some real-world stuff.

@mcfate @Bliss
I doubt very much that the choice will be as simple as that. At some point there will be a realisation that the military option is the only one the kids with no money will have.

@mickcarty @Bliss

Um, what?

Why would I think that? I'm going by the information YOU provided.

Were you misleading me? Are you suggesting they're going to make kids PAY to do national service on weekends?

@mcfate @Bliss
No. We are talking about a Tory policy here. It will be worked to make sure that the entitled little pricks that attend Eton, Oxford, Cambridge etc have nice little cushy weekend numbers, while the working class kids end up in the forces for a year. It’s the Tory way, after all.

@mickcarty @Bliss

Pretty much as I thought.

If it wasn't backed by the party you back, you're against it, and you're willing to invent unsupported reasons for why.

Got it. You're like the Republicans voting against the border bill because Biden might get credit.

@mickcarty @Bliss

Mm-kay. That explains why your big reason for being against it is that it's a "Tory proposal".

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@mcfate
Will I tell you why I’m against it?
Well, I’m sure there are some kids who will welcome, and benefit from, this idea, but the vast majority will not. British society has changed dramatically from what it was in years gone by, and good luck convincing any 18 year old to leave home for the military. Most can’t even organise their own driving lessons these days.
A huge number already have anxiety, and self esteem, even self-identity issues.
/

@mickcarty

Okay, so your problem with it isn't the cost, and it isn't that it'll disfavor the poor, it's that kids these days are lazy idiots.

You're all over the map. You seem to have no coherent arguments aside from being really, REALLY mad about something or other.

@mcfate
So, having lots of reasons why I hate the idea is being “all over the map”?
Never said kids are lazy idiots
It is the cost & where the money will come from.
It will disproportionately affect the poor.
It is the fact that it will not improve an already stretched military or police or NHS. I’ll tell you something - any soldier wants to know that the guy next to him has got his back & that won’t be the case with unwilling conscripts.
Yes, I’m fucking mad, & so should we all be.

@mickcarty

It's obvious that you're mad.

And yeah, your ever-evolving list of "reasons", none of which come with a shred of anything to back any of them up, is "all over the map".

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@mcfate
Aye, ok, you’re right.
I’ll go sit down in a corner and rethink my life. Nice chatting.

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