@estherschindler How can we stop the blurring of reprehensible actions and those of "norms" of past decades? While horrible and unacceptable from a woman's POV, some behaviors were standardized in specific decades. Can we not condemn actions w/o condemning a whole gender? Can we not allow for sincere apology, redemption, forgivenenss, restitution, & growth?
How do we keep the younger women from "hating" or even, fearing, all men when we vilify men in general? May not be intent, but is happening.
@estherschindler Are we being manipulated by cynical Repubs who find dirt on at least nominally supportive Dem/liberal men but don't police -- indeed they celebrate -- their own offenders? ahem *Trump* ahem. Ahem *Kavanaugh* ahem
@estherschindler I guess that's a yes or no question so, if yes what do we do?
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"Are you doing this with the thought that some near term change might actually come from it, or are you doing it because even though the probability of actual change is tiny, not any opportunity to advance this cause can morally be missed?"
@Old_Dave Good question. Though this woman is more historian and chronicler than activist.
@estherschindler
She may be in a position to know based on contact with others, then.
There's a board where I post stuff that gores strongly against the grain, they tell me I must be a paid democrat propagandist (I'm not even a strong dem supporter) because they are pro-trump and I am not, but I merely tell them that no, my role is to ensure that not one of them can ever say
"I didn't know".
@Old_Dave You could just tell 'em, "Do the right thing because your asses will get sued if you don't."
I have strong personal opinions of my own about our human ability to create social change, but they don't belong here. I should keep this to the "what to ask her?" topic. (I'm an optimist, though.)
@Old_Dave Can you give me an example of what you run into? That might be a good way for me to ask about this. "Dave listened to a board member say BLAH BLAH BLAH. What's the best way for him to respond?"
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It's just opinion stuff, mostly 'trump good, hitlery and the dems bad, want socializm and our gunz' type bullshit.
When Barr pulled a no-show they were 'good, why should he waste his time?"
They see no problem with the executive ignoring anything the executive thinks it should ignore, and will not admit if this was the repubs asking Q's of president hillary and she did the same thing, they would lose their effing minds and call for armed insurrection.
@estherschindler - were there real changes for the average 9-5 woman or was this 90% celebrities and high-visibility women?