i've never listened to either of these guys talk at length before.
to no one's surprise, listening to jd vance talk is... painful. dude is obnoxious as hell.
walz, though? lil nervous at the beginning, but he warmed up, and he's doing great.
i do have to say that listening to vance debate is much *less* painful than listening to trump debate. on like, several orders of magnitude.
(that doesn't mean it's pleasant by any stretch. just way less bad.)
@evistre i think it's equally painful but in different ways.
listening to trump was so painful i had to mute him when he was speaking, which meant i ended up missing big chunks of the debate because i didn't know when to change tabs and unmute.
listening to vance was so painful i bounced out of the debate entirely, hearing walz was not worth the pain of listening to vance. especially when walz kept saying he fucking agreed with the guy...