@dietotaku They pretend to a moral axiom, but their true axiom is "we want to control others, but do whatever we feel like. We like taking away things other people like so they'll suffer, but we get special privileges to keep any of it that we like for ourselves."
We're trying to argue with goblins here. There's no sense, no logic, no honesty.
@AskTheDevil or offer it a bag of lips to move out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcEE8J2Bqa8