We so routinely see hateful people sheltered from consequences--heck, even aided in the harm they do, by others who want to ride the wave of power, or who don't know how to "get off the bus"--that it's mystifying how we manage to be so hard on ourselves in our more quotidian struggles.
But then again, it feels like it should be a low bar not to do the harm that genuine grifters and hatemongers do.
In a better world they wouldn't be at the centre of every public conversation about moral action.
I have often thought about shame, and ostracizing, as the cultural regulator for this. But it so often misused. That I don't think it is applicable today.
As with so many things, cultural regulation has disappeared. We need to bring back constraints as a virtue.
@corlin @MLClark Cultural regulators don't exist when your social fabric has broken down - which is the case in much of the West due to a combination of hyper-individualist mindsets (no doubt spread in large part by Cold War propaganda), an extremely isolating car-centric transportation/infrastructure paradigm that eliminates opportunities for natural social interaction, overwork robbing many people of the time/energy to socialize, and the two-income household norm reducing informal networking.
Yes all factors.
But perhaps, and I am just thinking aloud here, these factors all point to some more fundamental causes. What led to these culture factors developing and succeeding in the first place?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6V0qmDZ2gg&list=PL3VaCuWY1hJlNQ6a2PDd4Ib1kSxUAiflF
@corlin @MLClark They were intentionally fostered.
The hyper-individualism epidemic was caused largely by Cold War efforts to reduce sympathy for the USSR and harden the population against subversion.
Car-centric transportation and infrastructure paradigms were borne of auto industry lobbying, itself driven by the desire for more profits and successful because of corruption.
Overwork is a result of the intentional devaluation of labour by the bourgeoisie...
@corlin @MLClark And the two-income household norm, the result of bourgeois efforts to erode the value of labour - to vastly increase the available workforce without appreciably increasing the demand for labour, by manipulating the equal rights movement and selling them the idea that wage slavery is somehow freeing / empowering.
Yes Yes... And...
I agree.
I am just trying to get you to think deeper. More holistically, less "game theory-ish".