@Ironworker229 @YouInMyEye @Idissent

Yep. they just don't want to admit they are voting for Trump. even when they have voted for him before. But they can tell you all the reasons they don't like Harris

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@Kinnison I dunno, I've heard mushy reasons of "socialism" or "She hasn't given detailed policy", and such. The fact is that they're just not listening. If held to the same standard, T has given less detail but more hate. Their minds are made up. The folks that need to be got are the ones that need to be got off the damned couch! They need to be persuaded that their votes actually matter. There are millions that just don't believe it. 🤷‍♂️
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@YouInMyEye @Idissent

@Kinnison @Ironworker229 @YouInMyEye @Idissent Yeah, my brother yesterday announced that he doesn't like either one and had hoped to vote for RFKjr. But there are "reasons" he doesn't like Harris, same as there were "reasons" not to like Hillary. What could those be. So mysterious. 🙄

@agunn @Ironworker229 @YouInMyEye @Idissent

The guy i talked to didn't like her voice, couldn't stand it.

Probably doesn't like her skin color, or sex either, but couldn't say that outloud without sounding Racist or misogynistic

@Kinnison I'll be honest: I dislike Clinton's voice. It grated and I couldn't take more than 60 seconds. Still voted for her. I can't stand Biden for more than 60 seconds. Voted for him. Harris is actually a bit more pleasing to my ear, but that has nothing to do with my vote. For the record, T clocks in at about 3 seconds. If someone says they're not voting for a candidate because of their voice, they're either lying or terribly shallow. Of course, you know this.
@agunn @YouInMyEye @Idissent

@Ironworker229 @Kinnison @agunn @Idissent

This one woman I knew said she will vote for GWB bc he's cute. 🙄 🤬

@YouInMyEye @Ironworker229 @Kinnison @Idissent 🤢 🤢 🤢 🤮

@YouInMyEye Nutz! It's maddening.
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@Kinnison @agunn @Idissent

@Ironworker229 @Kinnison @agunn @Idissent

As I've been saying, it's the IQ. It has to be.

@YouInMyEye Are we talking candidate or voters? Lol!
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@Kinnison @agunn @Idissent

@Ironworker229 @Kinnison @agunn @Idissent

Voters... but some candidates too.

@YouInMyEye I wish it were that simple. They're not all just dumb people. We tend to underestimate them at our peril. Most R voters are just people trying honestly to vote in their own interest, but as @tyghebright alluded to earlier, there's a lot of propaganda and manipulation at work. @Kinnison @agunn @Idissent

@Ironworker229 @tyghebright @Kinnison @agunn @Idissent

Right.

Still knowing what is the right thing to do is IQ. Knowing doing the right thing is mathmatically the right choice, IQ, in a broad sense.

@YouInMyEye I think I get where you're coming from. I can only suggest that the equation is interpreted differently depending on a whole host of circumstances and experiences based on individual voters' experiences. We two may see things similarly, others may see differently, but still in at least marginal good faith. When Harris wins, I hope that she has a cooperative congress to enact policies to improve lives in left-behind communities.
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@tyghebright @Kinnison @agunn @Idissent

@Ironworker229 @tyghebright @Kinnison @agunn @Idissent

Yes. Right. I think she will.

Currently listening to Chris Cornell "Black Days" acoustic. Great performance!
#music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tdPuCzdYsA

@Kinnison @agunn @Ironworker229 @YouInMyEye @Idissent

Yeah, a lot of guys didn't like Hillary's voice, too. Or said she didn't sound like an authority.

I don't doubt that it's true, but:

- That's because they are conditioned to dislike women, and find women less inherently leaders.

- What kind of dumb reason is that not to vote for someone? If someone has policies and philosophies I support, and has experience, they can sound like Gilbert Gottfried for all I care.

@tyghebright @Kinnison @agunn @Ironworker229 @Idissent

Absolutely. That's the way it should be without saying.

@tyghebright Yeah, for sure. And folks had been conditioned by AM radio and Fox particularly to her voice. I voted for her because I agreed in large part with her policies and had high confidence in her abilities.
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@Kinnison @agunn @YouInMyEye @Idissent

@agunn That's really irksome, to me. Just be honest and say "I got mine, FU. I want tax cuts" or "I hate the poor/brown folk/pick your marginalized group and think they should be miserable or dead". I've lost all patience for the willful ignorance facade. @Kinnison @YouInMyEye @Idissent

@agunn @Kinnison @Ironworker229 @Idissent

They were hungry for skewed characterizations

@Kinnison @Ironworker229 @YouInMyEye
But not give us one good reason why they like trump. A girl I know told me that we didn't like him because he hurt our feelings. I almost choked to death. He doesn't hurt my feelings, he offends my sensibilities but he doesn't hurt my feelings. So she likes him because he offends people? That's pretty much it

@Ironworker229 @YouInMyEye
Pretty much