First up: Judge Chutkan takes up Trump's motion to exclude the past 25 days from the "speedy trial" clock in this case. (The 25 days between arraignment and .... today)
Motion granted. The 25 days between the arraignment and today are excluded from speedy trial clock in case
Now... hearing shifts to the big matter: Trial date
Judge Chutkan details the recommendations
Jack Smith wants January 2, 2024 trial date.. estimate 4-6 weeks for making the case
Judge says "speedy trial" rights not only protect defendant.... but the "public interest" too
"Public has an interest in the fair and timely administration of justice"
Judge: "Delay is not an uncommon defense tactic" in federal criminal justice system
Citing past cases.... Judge says counsel is entitled to reasonable, not "unlimited" time to prepare
Judge says she's aware of other Trump cases.. and the dates in those cases
Judge asks Special counsel attorney (Molly Gaston) about paperwork/evidence sharing
Gaston: "Discovery is at approximately at 12.8 million pages" .... shared in 5 different productions
The 12.8 million pages include items from Jan 6 Select Committee, US Secret Service, National Archives, grand jury materials
The special counsel prosecutor (Gaston) has said the process of sharing the evidence with Trump defense team is "substantially complete"
Tens of thousands of the pages are from witness interviews..... and audio recordings of the interviews were also provided to defense
Judge asked how much of the evidence was created by Trump... such as tweets
Prosecutor doesn't have that info immediately available, she says
Judge: "The matter in which the discovery in this case has been organized" shows "considerable effort" by the prosecutors
When asked by judge about discovery, defense lawyer John Lauro says: "Mr. Trump...... President Trump .. is entitled to a fair trial"
He then calls it a "show trial"
He's speak quite loudly... nearly yelling
Defense attorney tells judge the proposed trial date from prosecutors: "Is absurd... it's a violation of the oath to do justice"
Judge urges defense to "take the temperature down a bit"
Lauro is blasting past some attempts by Judge Chutkan to interject .. as he continues to rail against proposed trial date
!! Judge to defense: "You and I have a very different" estimate of the time needed to prepare for trial
Defense says they're going to raise the issue of "executive immunity" and will question whether this court even has jurisdiction in case. "We're going to have a very, very unique and extensive motion that deals with executive immunity"
And... defense attorney John Lauro tells judge the defense expects to file a "selective prosecution" motion... citing the 2024 campaign and Hunter Biden
Defense says they're going to challenge the "obstruction" charge.. and whether it's appropriate in this case
Other Jan 6 defendants have done the same
Defense tells judge: "We're going to be back many, many times" arguing the novel issues in the case
Judge chuckles: "Can't wait"
Defense: "This is one of the most unique cases, from a legal perspective, ever brought in the history of the United States. Ever"
He's arguing the unique, novel issues of case warrant a longer wait for trial
Prosecutor says defense "doesn't want to admit" that thru electronic searches and modern American trial prep tools, Trump can be ready much earlier than 2026
Prosecutor uses defense attorney John Lauro's own words against him .... she says the night of the indictment, Lauro called the criminal case a "regurgitation" of the Jan 6 Select Cmte investigation
Indicating.. he understood the case quickly
Prosecutor cites Lauro's media & podcast interviews during week of Trump indictment earlier this month
She says Lauro claimed to have read Mike Pence's book twice... and that Lauro said he was already planning Pence cross-examination
Prosecutor: "We are not starting fresh"
Prosecutor Molly Gaston talks about defense's plan to file an "executive immunity" motion challenging case
Gaston: "Let's have that motion"... but set a trial date
@TheNewsOwl wow thanks for the info
@TheNewsOwl yay
@TheNewsOwl Justice delayed is justice denied (or pardoned).
@TheNewsOwl fine his ass for contempt yeah the lawyer
@TheNewsOwl is this on live tv?
@TheNewsOwl Here we go! ๐
@TheNewsOwl whoo hoo you go girl
@TheNewsOwl oh my goodness the man...this defense attorney is being so condescending
@catlynne333 @TheNewsOwl They're trying to provoke the judge hoping she'll have to recuse herself. A caution and, if repeated, a finding of contempt would probably be appropriate at this point.
@Coctaanatis I agree contempt give him a whopping fine @TheNewsOwl
@TheNewsOwl They're going to literally play the Nixon card? Let's see how that works out for them.
@TheNewsOwl Typical of males who generally disrespect women byy interrupting, talking over them, not listening. She's a woman, so he's disrespecting her because of that.
@ToolPackinMama @TheNewsOwl I hate to say this cause i usually dont believe it but he was mansplaining in fact the poster boy for that
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It's imperative that the trials *must* be completed before November 2024 in my opinion. The defense are trying to get beyond the election in the hope that TFG wins the Presidency.
@stueytheround @TheNewsOwl
Yep
If he wins, he'll pardon himself creating (yet another) constitutional crisis over the question of where it not he can do that.
Obviously, from a legal/constitutional perspective he can't.
๐Realpolitik says he can do whatever he isn't stopped from doing๐
@TheNewsOwl wahh i am understaffed Hire more attorneys asshat
@TheNewsOwl Thanks for this ๐ฉต
@TheNewsOwl Typical male raging to intimidate a woman.
@ToolPackinMama I agree it was ugly @TheNewsOwl
Judge Chutkan calls forward defense attorney John Lauro.. to confirm Lauro does NOT represent Trump in the other cases
Lauro acknowledges he does NOT represent Trump in other cases... but says his co-counsel *does*... and he calls defense "a team effort"
Judge says defense hasn't identified ANY other cases in DC in which TWO YEARS was given before trial, in which there were no co-defendants