@Jeber I disagree on the evidence part. I've never seen a theist that didn't already have the conclusion and searched for evidence. IF they actually did, as I did, they'd become an atheist as I did for there is no evidence to support the conclusion of any god. Js
@Mikethewander1
I agree, and think I may not have been clear. They have no evidence that is verifiable, but that hasn’t stopped them from reaching a conclusion, god exists. They are trying to find evidence to support their conclusion, which we know is not how it works.
So I think we actually agree on the evidence. They don’t have it, have spent thousands of years trying to find any, and haven’t succeeded.
@Jeber @Mikethewander1
Every theistic assertion is predicated upon a previous theistic assertion - a pattern that has continued for thousands of years. All without the annoying need for actual evidence to support any of these assertions.
@stevep44 @Mikethewander1
It's highly dishonest when they demand more and more evidence that there was a Big Bang while at the same time lowering the bar for their "evidence" that god exists.
@Mikethewander1
In a sense it does admit a conclusion, that god exists. Except it’s presupposed. Theology is a quest to find evidence to support a conclusion instead of forming a conclusion based on the evidence.