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We atheists hold a funny POV, because if/when we're "proven" correct, we won't be around to go "Ha! You see?!" to all the rest.

Properly processed, though, this should make us realize that we won't get the last word in most situations. I'll have my truth, you'll have yours, and we'll either live together as best we can with our convictions... or rush each other even faster to dust.

Proving that we were "right" isn't how we live well.

It's how we show up for each other in the fray that counts.

@MLClark it depends on one's definition of Atheist. Your post implies the "there isn't a god" position. An alternative that is present based is "there is no evidence to support the existence of god".

@CanisPundit

Agnosticism is the measure of one's capacity to "know" whether there is or isn't, so one can be an agnostic atheist, no problem, but the "proof" would still come at the same juncture, post-mortem.

The better challenge to what I wrote is to point out that one might believe in an afterlife absent the existence of a god - which is possible. The shorthand of a single post doesn't allow for those more Buddhist-atheist interpretations of a continuity of consciousness, but they exist.

@MLClark nicely put. And I almost made the Abrahamic distinction.

@CanisPundit

I love so very much whenever you nudge my posts for deeper thinking. Thanks for always being present to push / challenge / complicate ideas that could easily come across as simplistic. :)

@MLClark I know I appreciate my cognitive gears getting shifted too.

@MLClark @CanisPundit Regarding continuity of consciousness, from my perspective, it's weird watching everyone argue that they know what really happens after death, because it keeps happening to me.

; )

@AskTheDevil @CanisPundit

May your delight in us mortal fools continue apace for many millennia to come. :)

It's not that I'd mind if I was wrong, @MLClark πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ It's just that fact-based evidence, scientific theory, and critical thinking don't support it. πŸ€”

@cmskiera

OH I KNOW, IT DRIVES ME NUTS. πŸ™ƒ

The only kinds of gods I can't disprove are the absent, malevolent, and trickster gods, because if someone set up the universe to look entirely self-generated and indifferent to human action, just to "gotcha" our sorry behinds after death, they did a GREAT JOB.

But again, if and when it turns out there's nothing after death, none of us will be around to gloat or concede--so it still matters more how we comport ourselves with each other here and now.

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