Look.
I was really pissed off at many on this site who turned on Joe over one bad debate. And at just people in general who did that.
But as someone raised Catholic, I was taught the "felix culpa". And that's what we have here.
Joe sacrificed his ego for the greater good. And now, if we keep working, we have a chance to do amazing things.
So my fellow Americans, let's not fuck this up, hmm?
While I agree that people turned against Biden quickly after one debate, and that's not at all a good trait...we have to be honest. Biden was not going to win this election, whether that debate was good or not. He's too old for most of the Blue voters (especially the younger ones). He's not got a record of being very progressive on policy (as I've said many times here before, Milquetoast at best). He would get 0% of the swing voters and Trump has a Solid counter for Biden.
That’s a function of the ‘stupids
-‘d information silos, @Heucuva8 —but I have more hope then I have of late.
I sort of agree... but the fact that the DNC continued to either turn a blind eye to their party and its will, OR they don't care and continued to nominate him ANYWAY, so they could line their own pockets, shows they read a room worse than Trump does.
It's almost as though the Election win/loss doesn't affect them in their Ivory Towers, so they can afford to put a bad candidate out there just to ensure the Status keeps on Quoing - Tone Deaf & borderline Evil.
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@Thumprhare @Heucuva8 @LiberalLibrarian Daddy, I see your point, but take issue with “nominate him anyway” - he won the primaries. To your point, and I may be on the record on CoSo, he always said he would be a bridge President - until he almost wasn’t. I considered not voting after Biden dropped out, until I saw how smooth the transition was. I’m all in, thought Biden would’ve won, but I accept the excitement (and share it) of the new ticket. Biden still goes down in history well…
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I have a different take, in retrospect. Biden's slow physically, but I don't think he has any mental problem, just accentuation of his baseline speech impediment.
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Joe knows politics and how to use it. It is entirely possible this whole thing was orchestrated: The inconceivably bad debate performance after the primaries were finished, the resignation delayed until it could most effectively destroy the post-convention poll bump for the GOP,
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the complete unity in endorsing Harris that must have required weeks of phone calls kept in strictest confidence, then the final endorsement by Obama, after a few more days of suspense. What could have devolved into a bloodbath on the convention floor has turned into a love-fest.
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@AlphaCentauri @Thumprhare @Heucuva8 @LiberalLibrarian I don’t think you have a bad take on the deal. I hope you’re wrong, but…..
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Biden & Harris knew EXACTLY what they were doing. They planned it for months. I even suspect Biden flubbed debate to strengthen the move.
You don’t serve in DC for 50+ years & just fade into the sunset.
Biden executed the plan beautifully. IMO
The people who announce the outcome of the Nomination, are the same ones who cast the "representative" votes that determine the outcome. They're the Deciders, and the Nomination 'Vote' is how they get the general public to accept their decisions.
It's the "Illusion of Choice".
Debbie Wasserman Schultz did the same as Chair of the DNC.
It's why you NEVER see any candidate that wants to bring about Change given the Nomination. Only career politicians.
@LiberalLibrarian I'm STILL cranky about it, but that's bygones. This is no time for tunnel-vision.
@LiberalLibrarian totally agree
@LiberalLibrarian was it my debate night observation that President Biden was only slightly better than Captain Christopher Pike in his responses? I had concerns well before the debate (SOTU notwithstanding) and kept it to myself. But there was no recovery from the debate, the frame was set and nothing short of perfection could help perceptions.
We might actually see a 8 to 16 year swing into reclaiming lost ground and progress.
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@LiberalLibrarian Couldn’t agree more. I also backed Biden because it was only one debate and it angered me how almost everyone exploded it way beyond proportion. Biden’s self-sacrifice proved yet again what a decent and good man he is. So we have to make sure that wasn’t all in vain.💙💙💙🌊🌊🌊
@LiberalLibrarian i was really hurt by people on here not seeing we had a problem with Joe after the debate