#oprah
OK... I feel kinda uncomfortable looking at a billion dollar body job..
@JazzCrafter Really? Are we judging women for the way they choose to look, now? 👎🏽
@Liliki I caution you.. do not use her as an example for all women.. I thought you were a feminist. We have been judged SO HARD by men, that we also think we are comfortable in our own skin.. but are we really? Look at the other picture you posted of the lewdloudlyingloser.. and the women with him.. are they also comfortable in their own skin?
We need to be aware of the cultural pressures to look a certain way at all ages.
@Liliki Mind you, I did not say she was ugly, I did not say WHAT she was.. I said it made me uncomfortable.. because so many women.. strong women with amazing intelligence and wit and grit.. still bend to the judgments of others to set their own standard.. it is a deep and long lasting cultural bind, don't you think?
@Liliki Furthermore, she thought she looked "healthy.." when she flipped out in size 8 jeans after unhealthy regimen on her show back in the day..
@JazzCrafter she made HER CHOICE. I've known women who had tummy tucks after multiple pregnancies wrecked their bodies. They were in constant pain from split abdomen that caused back and pelvic issues.
After their tummy tucks, the pain was gone and of course they looked great because surgeons aren't make their work look like shit. And they were judged for vanity by people who knew nothing about them. I remember how Oprah hurt from being fat. And now she looks happy. For whatever reason.
@Liliki I am not referring to needed healthcare issues.. you and I both know this goes way beyond this. I am not talking about life saving procedures.. and to think this level of plastic surgery is in the same category as serious healthcare issues.. I am surprised at this coming from you. they are not the same, nor are they affordable for everyone.
@JazzCrafter frankly you sound jealous. We need to stop here. Bye.
@Liliki Do not assume about me.. bye.
@JazzCrafter psychological or physical pain, she was unhappy. She took matters in her own hands and hired surgeons. Now she looks happy and frankly much healthier.
You are judging her for her choices. If you don't like plastic surgery, don't get it. It's very much like abortion, it's the woman's choice. It's her body. She deserves respect for making her own choices. I happen to hate boob jobs. My best friend loves hers. I am not uncomfortable with her choice, I chose differently. 🤷🏻♀️
@Liliki I was just remarking about how it made ME feel about the pressure of big pharma to make us look a certain way for THEIR profit.. and we all know this is a cultural problem.. Oprah is gonna do what she does, I have no say in that, nor do I want to.. but I have a right to note my discomfort of the cultural demand of how we should "look.." no matter how much is costs.
@Liliki Again.. I am like you.. a feminist. And I note the desire to look a certain way that is dictated by men.. from burkas to butt hanging bikinis.. we choose whatever we want.. but note the ubiquity of cultural pressures evident to this very day.. is all I am saying!
@JazzCrafter as a retired nutritionist, I can tell you that the fat she was carrying had detrimental effects on her long term health. She was able to get rid of it and finally master her nutrition. She looks healthy. Yes she had plastic surgery. And she put herself in the shape that puts her at peace in her own skin. I wish for all women to be able to to do the same thing.