@LlamaMountainStudioArts I never drive on ice unless an emergency. I never went too fast. Job I had knew I had a FWD & the 1st time I used/learned it was on way to work on a mandatory night: "You have a FWD; you can get here" Ugh; Hubs rode w/me that night, guiding me. I 1st kicked it in going downhill, in a curve, as it still was snowing outside. I thought I was going to turn the truck over! He told me I'd feel the truck wheels take control, to not panick, & above all not to touch brakes!