So Walz and Vance are both speaking to the firefighters union.

Walz got cut off by Fox (after cheers), who assured their viewers that unions were BAD BAD things and the "rank and file" (you know, members) were Trump supporters.

JD Vance got booed. No, really booed. I listened to the clip - it wasn't a little boo.

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Firefighters are not police officers. Firefighters are AFL-CIO.

A real union.

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