@0x56

oo oo... discombobulated.

Honestly, is that even a word, though?

"I am combobulated." Sounds like you got a botched haircut. 😂

@0x56
And why does distressed and stressed mean the same thing?

Go home, English, you're drunk. 😜

@0x56 Oh yeah, and what about bunked and debunked? You can say something is bunk, which means it is incorrect, but if you debunk something, it means you have proven it is incorrect. So if we were being sensible you would just "bunk" something, but nooooo you have to debunk it.

@janallmac @0x56

I've often wondered about non-plussed versus plussed. Gruntled versus disgruntled.

@JanetZumba_FalPals @0x56
Gruntled! That was on the tip of my brain. It sounds bad, but using logic (which is clearly optional) gruntled would be a good thing.

@janallmac @JanetZumba_FalPals @0x56

You'd think but...

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gruntle

@NiveusLepus

See, that sounds like something a peasant in 1000 a.d. before any Normans came to England, holding a mug of home-brewed cider would say.

I do not know for sure when the normans came to England, but gruntled sounds like old English to me. Like "Yay! I didn't die of plague today! I'm gruntled!"

@JanetZumba_FalPals @0x56

@janallmac @JanetZumba_FalPals @0x56

The Normans came with the arrival of William the Bastard in 1066.

The battle of Hastings was the decisive moment that ended the Anglo-Saxon era for England that began in the 400s.

@NiveusLepus Henceforth, the "English" spoke "French" and lo! A language was born! 🤣
Guillaume has much to answer for!

@janallmac @JanetZumba_FalPals @0x56

@NiveusLepus @janallmac @0x56 thank you for this linguistic history.

@janallmac @JanetZumba_FalPals @0x56

So fun fact with the arrival of William the Bastard, and the Normans came French. The Language of the courts and nobility was French in England for 200 years after, not letting go until the middle of the 1200s.

This is where we get words like beef, cabbage, parliament, champion etc... Those all have French origins.

There are so many more too.

Anything with a Th- (This, Thing etc) comes from the Danelaw, and old Norse as well.

@NiveusLepus
I thought William was a Conquerer, not a Bastard? 🤔 Well, he was probably both. But... literally, or figuratively? 🤔

I did hear about all the different names for animals and the animal in the field vs. on the plate, and how the nobility spoke more French, apparently. I like this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL2vtwdEFaY

He's got an absolutely spectacular face, don't you think?

@JanetZumba_FalPals @0x56

@janallmac @JanetZumba_FalPals @0x56 He was known as William the Bastard before he was known as William the Conqueror, because he was born of an illegitimate relationship.

He also was not a very nice soul, so it kind of fits him better in my estimation.

@NiveusLepus
Yeah, makes sense. They were pretty matter-of-fact with the insults back then, too, weren't they?
@JanetZumba_FalPals @0x56

@janallmac @JanetZumba_FalPals @0x56

Well he did call his son Robert Curthose, Basically Robert Shortpants.

@janallmac @JanetZumba_FalPals @0x56 He also disrespected and denigrated him enough to push him towards a full rebellion.

@NiveusLepus
Oh my gosh! 😳

Kind of makes me regret calling my son Chicken Legs that one time when he was a week old and had not yet plumped out. He didn't speak English at the time, and they were cute chicken legs, and he certainly doesn't deserve that nickname today. Also, I never conquered any islands and generally never use slurs, so... Well, this is a better time to live in, overall.

To clarify: He was a literal newborn and it was actually a term of endearment.

@JanetZumba_FalPals @0x56

@janallmac I think intent matters, most definitely, also he was a newborn. Language processing was not fully online yet.

Thing is, there is a well documented lifetime of abuse and insults between William and his oldest son.

In those times, cruelty was much more a matter of course for many. William the Bastard was sadly not unique for his time.

@NiveusLepus
That's really sad, though, in all seriousness. I hate when people mistreat their children, and it was such a matter of course for so many generations, like you say. 💔

@NiveusLepus Oui! Il sont Guillaume le Batard!
His son, William 2nd aka Rufus was well regarded as I understand it.

@janallmac @JanetZumba_FalPals @0x56