I’m not usually pro-corporation but I’m a little puzzled how you can have a monopoly on your own product—isn’t that kind of what capitalism is about?

I’m puzzled as to what the end-game is here?

Are all businesses required to give competitors access? What about Microsoft? Or are they not a “monopoly” because they run on other companies hardware?

Justice has a very weird and confusing case that really doesn’t fit the concept of monopoly.

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@feloneouscat Since Apple controls a major portion of telecommunications through their platform, and that telecommunications is part of general communications systems that are legally required to interoperate, when Apple prevents other services from using all features or accessing their phones, they're using monopoly tactics to push people into abandoning competitors.

They're unfairly using market control on something meant to be interoperable for the community.

@AskTheDevil

And yet they do interoperable.

As for the “general communications” attempt, we can agree that no phone manufacturer HAS to have text communication, correct? In fact, there are many phones (aka dumb phones) that have ZERO ability to text.

Is the argument that ALL communications (I.e FB, et Al) are required by law to have APIs?)

As an engineer for over 40 years, I’m anxious to see that law.

I’m at a loss as Microsoft and Google (aka Android) has faced no such pressure.

@AskTheDevil

Having a “monopoly” on the product you make is not illegal.

This is merely a bogus argument. Apple has not prevented anyone from making an app to communicate. I do so all the time with FB messenger.

@AskTheDevil

Does Tesla have a monopoly on EV chargers? On EVs?

The DOJ has a dumb argument.

@AskTheDevil

Cell phones MUST interoperate with phone networks. That is law. Apple, along with every other cellphone manufacturer, does. There is no illegal monopoly going on.

Likewise, their Messaging app DOES allow operation with Android. Whether the message bubble is green or blue is irrelevant as it is only seen one iPhone, not on Android. I’m puzzled why that is even an issue.

How is the color of a message bubble an interoperation issue? This seems rather ludicrous.

@feloneouscat We currently really have two giant monopolies controlling the entire phone market. Android at least licenses its OS out to different phone manufacturers, but between them, they have almost the entire smartphone market locked up.

Phones, like everything else, use communication standards and protocols that are meant to be agreed-on, so for instance, people who buy one brand of phone can still talk to people on another. Same with broadcast devices.
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@feloneouscat One of the things Apple does is refuse to use the standard protocol for text messaging that carriers and phone providers (smart and dumb phones) use. This strips formatting, attachments, and other features. It's only broken because Apple wants it that way, and their CEO's response is if you don't like it, buy all Apple stuff.

So that alone is likely basis for some of the troubles Apple has.

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@AskTheDevil

Irrelevant. Apple uses its own protocol.

That isn’t illegal.

There are MULTIPLE companies that use MULTIPLE protocols and NONE are standard.

The SMS protocol is a horrible protocol with nonexistent security. Apple DOES have limited support for it.

There is no legal requirement that it must provide access for FB or any other protocol. Just because people want it doesn’t mean Apple is breaking a law.

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