@arthurpendragon for the most part yes very much so I have scoliosis so I get back spasm all the time they were less frequent the last year and not as bad at all when I did have 1 as they typically are but this felt a little bit different this time so I think it's a combination of when I sneezed I tweaked my back which caused a lower lumbar strain and that triggered a spasm I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure that's what happened