A rebuttal to Ilhan Omar's shitty statement: Throughout history, protests were used to demonize Jews so that institutions would shut them out. That's what we're seeing now at Columbia Univiversity. The Columbia protesters have made clear their demands & want their school to be Jew-free. Public officials & media making this about the false notion of genocide in Gaza, are inflamming the situation & need to be held accountable for their heinous actions.
@Magnetron1 You can't deny the reality of the protesters calls against the violence in Gaza so you make up lies about what they're saying. This only shows the weakness of your position
@GlennS may I gently suggest that this is not productive, will not help those of us supporting a ceasefire.
@LaurelGreen and what do you suggest is a productive path, esp when we see somene outright lying about the protests?
@GlennS I don’t think the label lying is helpful. I think people posting about curtailing protests actually believe that support for gaza is support for hamas and antisemitism.
Gawdess I wish I had the answers for what would be helpful. For me, listening online to the pain being expressed, understanding (as best I can)
the reality of antisemitism is what I can do.
What I can do offine is likely more helpful. Talking to activists about the realities of infiltrators.
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@LaurelGreen I don't see Magnetron's posts as an expression of their pain. I see the spreading of falsehoods. I see harm being done. I can't just sit around watching it.
@GlennS I wasn’t responding to specific posts, you might be right. Im just speaking generally, with a deep hope that we can hear one another well enough to work together to end suffering.
@LaurelGreen i agree that this isn't particularly productive. But it is part of the fight to control the narrative
@GlennS I hear that. And if this were any other social media platform I likely wouldn't have said anything. I supose I responded b/c I think coso is unique. To change the narrative here imho we need listening, dialogue, context, and more listening. For me, this is closer to what we need to create change in our offline world.
I am horrified that our media narratives have so much power. And I hella agree with you that some are SO wrong.
Just advocating that coso can be different.
@LaurelGreen my online experience has been that it is very rare that opposing opinions change each others' minds. I've learned more by watching others' discourse, and reading up independently. I have been affected by arguments, just not usu the ones I'm involved in. So the hope, when I call out something as wrong is that some unseen someone on the fence might swing my way. It's the way I've learned the most, anyway
@GlennS im og online, i’ve seen what we hoped online communication could become, and the dumpsterfire we ended up with. But I support #coso cause I still wanna believe. I might be naive, but ok, I can live on/with hope.
Over the years Ive seen a goal shifting of what difference of opinions even means! Its nuts
@LaurelGreen Do you thnk the stakes might be higher now or is i just the way we parse our differences that has changed?
@LaurelGreen pardon all the typos, btw. I'm typing with 2 bandaids on my index finger
@GlennS haha my typos dont have that good a reason!