the school has literally told them they shouldn’t come for their safety. If these protesters didn’t want the Jewish kids to be feeling unsafe they’d have made that clear. They aren’t sticking up for the kids here in any way. @GlennS @Magnetron1

@GlennS may I gently suggest that this is not productive, will not help those of us supporting a ceasefire.

@Magnetron1

@LaurelGreen and what do you suggest is a productive path, esp when we see somene outright lying about the protests?

@GlennS They aren't lying. Columbia has a bunch of antisemites protesting. They need to go join far right brethren. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnJu91bxEdQ @LaurelGreen

@AnnetteTRemain that's a very sloppy, biased piece of propaganda, that isn't journalism. Garbled audio, a lot of claims without evidence

@GlennS There's several videos. Easy to look up. I don't think people pointing out the antisemitism are the liars.

@AnnetteTRemain if they're so easy t find, why'd you pick such a poor example?

@GlennS You must think this is a mcdonalds. I already posted several of them. I found another one. I don't care what the reporters say I care what the protestors are saying and whether anyone corrects them when they are out of line. Would you like fries with your antisemitic shake?

@AnnetteTRemain Would you like a nice hot apple pie with your islamphobia? Btw, what I expect is that if you post a video and pretend that it supports your point, i'd hope you'd have enough integrity to post one that actually does support it and when it doesn't, i'll just figure you couldn't support that point

@GlennS That's not islamaphobia. Islamaphobia is when I accuse all muslims of doing this. You are an antisemite calling a jew a liar when you back antisemites knowingly. Next reply is your Mcdonalds order, Princess.

@GlennS https://twitter.com/jonasydu/status/1781178975147917797 hamas support
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21VxyD4DyjY antisemitism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL9wgVoL2Nk 1:15 from river to sea signs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8-ZyLy9B_s 0:53 river to sea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HrP6CF77eg professor denied access
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2_kq0mWf68 0:18 intifada revolution there is only one solution; 0:29 we are hama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3knDD65B4Y 0:55 sign pointing to jewish students al-qasams next targets
https://twitter.com/ShaiDavidai/status/1748449961857917431 intifada

@GlennS Those are videos of protestors from multiple sources behaving in disgusting ways that brings embarrassment and shame to Never Maga. If they were protesting war and wanted to end war you think they could manage to stick to that rhetoric.

@AnnetteTRemain bye princess

@GlennS Yeah... you got your video. Antisemite.

@GlennS The audio is what matters. Not what the reporters are saying. Audio, video, and pictures of those protestors behaving in disgusting ways shows what those protestors are really about.

@GlennS I don’t think the label lying is helpful. I think people posting about curtailing protests actually believe that support for gaza is support for hamas and antisemitism.

Gawdess I wish I had the answers for what would be helpful. For me, listening online to the pain being expressed, understanding (as best I can)
the reality of antisemitism is what I can do.

What I can do offine is likely more helpful. Talking to activists about the realities of infiltrators.

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@LaurelGreen I don't see Magnetron's posts as an expression of their pain. I see the spreading of falsehoods. I see harm being done. I can't just sit around watching it.

@GlennS I wasn’t responding to specific posts, you might be right. Im just speaking generally, with a deep hope that we can hear one another well enough to work together to end suffering.

@LaurelGreen i agree that this isn't particularly productive. But it is part of the fight to control the narrative

@GlennS I hear that. And if this were any other social media platform I likely wouldn't have said anything. I supose I responded b/c I think coso is unique. To change the narrative here imho we need listening, dialogue, context, and more listening. For me, this is closer to what we need to create change in our offline world.

I am horrified that our media narratives have so much power. And I hella agree with you that some are SO wrong.

Just advocating that coso can be different.

@LaurelGreen my online experience has been that it is very rare that opposing opinions change each others' minds. I've learned more by watching others' discourse, and reading up independently. I have been affected by arguments, just not usu the ones I'm involved in. So the hope, when I call out something as wrong is that some unseen someone on the fence might swing my way. It's the way I've learned the most, anyway

@GlennS im og online, i’ve seen what we hoped online communication could become, and the dumpsterfire we ended up with. But I support #coso cause I still wanna believe. I might be naive, but ok, I can live on/with hope.

Over the years Ive seen a goal shifting of what difference of opinions even means! Its nuts

@LaurelGreen Do you thnk the stakes might be higher now or is i just the way we parse our differences that has changed?

@LaurelGreen pardon all the typos, btw. I'm typing with 2 bandaids on my index finger

@GlennS haha my typos dont have that good a reason!

@GlennS i think the stakes are horribly high. It haunts me. i wonder how my ancestors felt. I do think we as humans are navigating new technologies, and Im horrified at the non human influenced (capitalism) are changing our societies

@LaurelGreen I know that pre-trump, there was a general consensus that political differences were something that you worked around. You looked for the common ground. Nowadays, we look for differences first. I wonder sometimes whether we've lost something or whether maybe we should've been fighting harder all along. I don't have an answer

@GlennS I remember those days as something we worked at creating understanding, reached for consensus, or at least non violence. But I wonder if I/we romanticized it, when I talk to elders shit was always this bad, we just didnt SEE it collectively,
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@LaurelGreen Probably why intersectionality is such a powerful idea. We weren't thinking that way and if we had been, we might have gotten angrier sooner

@GlennS for real!