"Nothing" doesn't exist. Instead, there's "quantum foam" - Big Think
https://bigthink.com/hard-science/nothing-exist-quantum-foam/
@mcfate When I looked it up, the Muon g-2 experiment looks like it's confirming the aberration at a 4.2 sigma level. Pretty close to certain. That gives them a new place to look for what it is, assuming they can get to 5 sigma somehow.
I'm not denying its existence, I'm saying that apart from "it's there", there's not a lot that can be said about it. It's not "made of" anything in particular, it doesn't "do" anything in particular, it just "foams".
"Emptiness is not empty." — Zen proverb
Back in the day, I think the term for "quantum foam" was "Primal Chaos".
@tmbrown327 OK, but what is there around these particles that blink into existence?
seems to me that they operate in nothing also known as empty space!
Am I right or wrong? Thanks
@Helveticus At the scales they're looking at, analogies break down pretty quick. If 'nothing' is actually just a point in space that is about to be something else, is it empty? And if just looking at it changes whether is is or is not, can anything be nothing?
@tmbrown327 I understand but, don't we need nothingness in order to define 'somethingness'?
@Helveticus Maybe *we* need this kind of allegorical mechanism, but the underlying reality does not, apparently.
@tmbrown327
"Quantum foam" isn't anything in particular, though.