@t_heislen

But "Things won't be better in America until America abandons the Constitution and becomes some OTHER country" isn't rational.

"Democrats winning every single seat in the House and Senate, or at least a supermajority in both houses of Congress" would "move the needle", but it's an unmoored daydream. It's not likely to happen, and making it the baseline for "things going your way" is a recipe for ineffectiveness.

You have to work with what you've GOT, not what you WISH you had.

@mcfate Which agrees with what I think the larger point is. First be clear-eyed about what we actually have to work with, not an idealized view. Then dig harder. If the ideal is impossible, don't pretend you're living there - then you have a chance to be effective.
Rude may be vulgar, and certainly deals in hyperbole (humorist, of a sort, after all) but is pretty realistic in the larger view of his commentaries.

@t_heislen

Wait, WHAT?

What "larger point"? I see no "larger point". I see a lot of unmoored weeping about impossibilities.

Do I have to use a magic decoder ring to reveal this "larger point", somehow?

All I see is "democracy is an illusion, and you're all simpletons for getting suckered".

The first step in "being clear-eyed" is NOT "imagine a lot of completely silly stuff and make a bunch of free-floating and over-reaching claims".

@t_heislen

If "Let's get rid of the Senate" seems "clear-eyed" to you, I have no idea what to tell you.

You keep talking about "rudeness", something I've never mentioned, and I have no idea why.

I'm not calling it "rude", I'm calling it "fanciful, if not completely idiotic", and it doesn't inspire me to investigate this silly troll further.

If someone babbles and raves, I don't keep encouraging them in the hopes they've got some sane "larger point" behind the overt insanity.

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@mcfate Name of original poster: The Rude Pundit (Lee Papa) - trust me, it fits.
To sum: this would be a real democracy.
Unstated (but, again, in the larger picture of his commentaries, the "and..." is a given): Yeah, fat chance, so what am I going to do?
You absolutely get the point, just not his giving you the credit for being able to think it through.
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@t_heislen

Dude, there's nothing to "think through" in evidence. There's only some silly claims about "full democracy", which has evidently never existed at ANY point in the ENTIRETY of US history. There's ALWAYS been a Senate. There's ALWAYS been an Electoral College.

He should read the Federalist Papers. He's got a lot of VERY silly ideas about democracy in America.

I'll let you pull that condescension card exactly ONCE, considering which of us "isn't thinking things through" here.

@t_heislen

ProTip: the US was intentionally and explicitly designed NOT to be the "full democracy" this seemingly-not-well-informed "pundit" demands. ATHENS had a "full", "real" democracy. It didn't work all that well. Nothing much got DONE, until some tyrant or other took over.

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