What if our brain's architecture limits our ability to comprehend and consider our moral bearing?
What if many of us don't have a sufficient brain architecture?
Can
We
Judge
?
BTW, intelligence can be demonstrated without the complexity required for a sound moral position. I.e. Intelligent people can be immoral.
@jurban Are you suggesting that people cannot be judged for an impaired ability to possess a moral architecture compatible with other life similar to themselves?
We can judge them unfit. That's a judgement.
I'm not judging them based on their morals, or lack thereof, I am basing my actions and responses on my own morals.
A moral, to me, is similar to an axiom. It is why you choose some ethics and not others.
If an ethic is how you follow a mission, a moral is a reason for the mission.
@jurban I can see that a dog is rabid, and know it can't help itself, and know I can't cure it, and feel sorry for it, but still not let it bite me.
@jurban A moral is a value, an ethic is a strategy.
Exercising judgment is a strategy, which can be informed by morality.
My moral and ethical framework tend to reject or minimize punishment as a strategy.
I'm not motivated by wanting suffering for myself or others.
I'm motivated by wanting to protect, teach, redeem, build, inspire, grow.
I already want to hurt neither the guilty or the innocent.
If somone's broken, I want to know why, in case I can help.
But I won't let them run amok.
@AskTheDevil
Exercising Judgement is a process to Build a strategy.
Minimizing punishment may be an attribute of the building of a strategy, but is not fundamental. It might even be labeled as hedonistic.
Motivation is an outgrowth of world-view. That's the boundary of my current foundational view. I'm currently unable to argue beyond that given my lack of spirituality.
@AskTheDevil
I'll need a good night sleep to flesh out the hedonism topic...
But, I think we need to differentiate between individual actions and society adjustments. I'm only addressing the brain and the humans using it.
@AskTheDevil
Re: hedonistic....
Allowing bad behavior to go unchecked might be the result of a hedonistic disposition. If you only prioritize pleasure, why engage in the messy process of punishment? Unless, of course, you are wired to get pleasure from punishment. I'd rather keep the analysis closer to the middle of the bell curve.
Regardless, this is a different rabbit hole from my original premise that some people are insufficiently wired to think with complex abstract concepts.
@jurban The process of punishment is not a chore that needs to be done by responsible people, and it is not a sign of slacking when you don't engage in it.
There is no law of matter or energy or physics that requires punishment.
Punishment is a conceit.
@jurban It seemed that you were also touching on how they could or should be judged.
You're the one who called "not punishing people" "hedonistic" and there's just no way I could resist responding to that. It's such a novel concept to me!
@jurban Not punishing people is hedonistic? I'd like to hear your take on that.
It looks very much to me like an inordinate number of people seem to take hedonistic pleasure in _punishing_ others, or even thinking of horrid things to do to punish others.
My reasoning for minimizing punishment is not based on hedonism.
It is based on outcomes and experimentation.
Punishment is a strategy that is rarely more useful than it is counter-productive.