@Mrs_Bones @Heucuva8 @GlytchMeister "our pet goblin" that's all I need to hear to know yall are my type of ttrpg players

@Mrs_Bones @glassramen @Heucuva8

I intend, one day, to use Fabricate to pull all of the mortar out of a castle’s brick wall, and/or use shape water to compromise a structure’s foundation (5 cubic feet of water can make a LOT of dirt into mud).

I like to rag on civil engineers a lot but they’d be unstoppable if you give them cantrips

@GlytchMeister @Mrs_Bones @Heucuva8 Though I haven't played in years, I still hold the goal of using prestidigitaiton to trick creatures into running into walls, or falling into pits as often as possible. Actually now that I think of it, there are a ton of things I want to do.

@glassramen @Mrs_Bones @Heucuva8

I may or may not have a reputation for very…

lateral thinking.

My stepbrother DM is torn between malicious glee that I’m not very concerned about my characters dying because I’m excited to use my other characters…

And abject fear because he knows I will eventually bring an artificer to the table, and knows that he will likely have to look up civilization-level rulesets because the only thing separating me from a mad scientist is a college degree. 😈

@GlytchMeister @Mrs_Bones @Heucuva8 My character died? FOOL! I have twenty characters on standby!

@glassramen @Mrs_Bones @Heucuva8

Fabricate + wood + magnetite = instant printing press = instant Renaissance. Combine with bags of holding and circles of teleportation and you can make that Renaissance instantly global.

A warforged casting fabricate could potentially mass-produce Jo Blocks, meaning instant precision engineering

Don’t even get me started on things that can instantly shape stone and control water. Civil engineer’s wet dream. Hoover dam in a day.

*coughs* Ahem... <Wizards get THIS @ lvl 2> *cough*
😁😂🤣

@GlytchMeister @glassramen @Mrs_Bones

@Heucuva8 @GlytchMeister @Mrs_Bones Doesn't specify beyond "non-magical" Oh boy oh boy oh boy.

@Heucuva8 @glassramen @Mrs_Bones

Economy: temporarily ruined until merchants make countermeasures against conjured objects.

Also a good way to make a trap trigger by making this a load-bearing object.

…

Can’t conjure black powder kegs, because they’d disappear the moment they take any damage - meaning they disappear before the chemical energy can be released.

What if you allow someone to discover uranium ore, use fabricate to make a 3ft cube of pure uranium, and show it to the conjurer…?

@Heucuva8 @glassramen @Mrs_Bones

… Nah, you’d have to be able to see the uranium atoms themselves to be able to separate them from the ore molecules with fabricate, and then I’m pretty sure radioactive decay would qualify as damage. Maybe necrotic.

Even then, that amount of pure uranium, even just U238, would probably instantly China syndrome and would also probably catch on fire and deep-fry anyone looking at it.

@Heucuva8 @glassramen @Mrs_Bones

… a three foot cube of the plasma of a lightning bolt. Or a three foot cube of the sun’s photosphere.

If you really want to get nuts, find a way to glimpse the core of the sun, and conjure a piece of that. Tho you should also probably use Contingency to insta-cast Otiluke’s Resilient Sphere to protect you from the resultant thermonuclear detonation.

@Heucuva8 @glassramen @Mrs_Bones

The piece of the sun wouldn’t stay long enough, because I’d imagine nuclear fusion also counts as “damage”, but the thermal and light energy it contains would probably be enough to ignite at least a little bit of fusion in the surrounding atmosphere.

If nothing else, it would heavily ionize the surrounding air and cause a pretty big but not thermonuclear explosion.
But a cube of lightning bolt wouldn’t undergo any kind of damage, it would just expand… rapidly.

@Heucuva8 @glassramen @Mrs_Bones

Rapidly enough to replicate, say, the spell Shatter, perhaps? Or maybe just Thunderwave?

Or does the caster need to have seen a literal cube of lightning plasma to conjure one? Or at the very least, a bolt of lightning thick enough to contain a three-foot cube?

@GlytchMeister @Heucuva8 @Mrs_Bones 3ftx3ft glass cube with a hole just large enough on one side to fit the neck of a humanoid creature. The interior of the cube is a vacuum. Best to use this if you manage to get close to your enemy. You summon it on their head, their neck making a seal to prevent outside air entering. If they leave it on, they deal with their head being in a vacuum, if they (or you) break the glass, they are then subject to the forces of air rapidly entering a vacuum.

@glassramen @Heucuva8 @Mrs_Bones

Ooh, that checks out, technically as long as someone has looked at the night sky, they’ve “seen” hard vacuum.

Alternatively, a steel mask that perfectly fits the enemy’s face, made as thick as possible within the weight and size limit. Probably pretty heavy, very hard to remove, and sets the enemy up for Heat Metal with no easy way to remove the metal being heated.

Wait… can the conjurer specify the temperature of the object?

@GlytchMeister I have no idea. That would make for some very fun moments.

@glassramen

Probably can only specify a temperature that the conjurer has seen?

But yet again that includes everything from the near absolute zero of space to the surface of the sun.

Probably can’t conjure a chunk of stuff at solar surface temp because that stuff would arguably take damage because it’s blow up, but what about a bunch of water flashing to steam? It’s just boiling, albeit… with vigor. But that’s still a fairly large amount of water instantly boiling into vapor.

@glassramen

Which, iirc, is the same event that blew the lid off of Chernobyl - the water coolant flashing to steam. The graphite and fuel rods ignited after the lid came off.

Granted, that was probably a lot more water turning into a shitload more steam, but still.

Lotta force.

Also a lotta hot. Industrial Revolution steam engine boiler explosions were horrifying in large part because of the steam.

Wait.

That’s it.

You can make a steam engine with that.

@glassramen

Just have a conjurer summon a hunk of supercritical water inside a piston. It flashes to steam, pushes the piston, piston pushes a crank, the crank turns a flywheel, the flywheel returns the piston, expels the steam, repeat.

The only fuel needed is food for the conjurer.

Have at least three conjurers working shifts. The more conjurers, the shorter the shifts can be, and the more multiples of at least three, the more pistons you can have.

And no pollution!

@GlytchMeister Using said logic, we could easily create plenty of power plants and industrialize the realm.
Obviously the conjurors would be highly paid and be treated well. There could be ones that keep trains/ships/etc running, those that work in power generation, etc. Magical steampunk DnD world would be sick

@glassramen

It really would be.

Even if spellcasters are rare, this is almost free power generation.

And even if we say nobody has any funny ideas about spinning magnets near wires, we can still have large vehicles and powered factories.

Add Fabricate casters with a Keen Mind feat working as walking printing presses using raw materials from industrial agriculture and disseminating via teleportation to make a supercharged SneakerNet…

That would probably increase Caster availability.

@GlytchMeister I'm not sure how temperature would work to be honest.
I assume it'd work by intuition, in that the temperature of the summoned thing would be at an average temperature for said thing. Summon a plume of steam, and that steam would be just a handful of degrees over boiling. Summon a rock, and it'd be around room temperature, or the temp of the area you are in. Summoning a block of ice would require it be below freezing. So maybe you'd be able to augment it ie "fresh" soup.

@glassramen

Hmm.

Well, then, I suppose it could be “you can summon it at the temperature you’ve seen it at, but you can modify the temperature to be temperatures you’ve seen similar substances at”

So if you’ve seen ice, you can probably summon frozen soup, and if you’ve seen lava, you can probably summon molten metal.

So… you’d have to have seen superheated liquid water, because most people have never seen water that is both liquid and like 400°C

But, this is fairly easy to contrive…

@GlytchMeister Yeah, simple enough. Magical barrier holding water, then submerging that water into either lava or said molten metal.

@glassramen

Oh shit I completely forgot about otiluke’s resilient sphere, you’re right

Fill that with water and yeah… unless the sphere blocks the transfer of heat, which it probably does… but then, could you just summon lava inside the sphere to heat the water repeatedly?

If not, there’s still the pressure vessel.

@glassramen

I mean, how hard could it be to use Fabricate to make a pressure vessel full of water with a watchglass, pop that sucker into a forge, and let er rip, and have a bunch of conjurers have a look?

Obviously such a vessel would be hard to make IRL but Fabricate, assuming the caster has, let’s say expertise with smithing tools and jeweler’s tools, can make a metal sphere 5’ wide with a thimble of water inside it and layered mica windows, with no welding seams or bolt flanges.

I think you're both heading in the wrong direction... how about we try COLD FUSION instead. 😉

Or make a 3ft crucible mold to expedite making concrete/steel/iron blocks... (Good to load in a trebuchet)

Or a 3ft square plate with 1ft sharp spikes on top. Combo with a well-aimed bull rush from the Fighter...

You could make a railgun out of molded metal parts pretty easily and Hematite is naturally magnetic.

@GlytchMeister @glassramen @Mrs_Bones

@Heucuva8 @glassramen @Mrs_Bones

Not sure about cold fusion. That requires pretty substantial knowledge of subatomics, and conjuring an ongoing fusion reaction would just result in immediate vanishing because two atoms smashing into one another so hard their fundamental properties alter as they conjoin, pieces come off, and energy is released… probably counts as bludgeoning damage :P

And someone would have actually had to have seen an ongoing fusion reaction.

@Heucuva8 @glassramen @Mrs_Bones

Even fabricate wouldn’t work because you need to be able to see the materials you are working with. Fusion works with atoms, not bulk material, so you’d need to be able to see the atoms themselves at the very least, if not the atomic nucleus itself (a much harder ask).

That’s not to say being able to use Fabricate wouldn’t significantly reduce the time to R&D and build a fusion reactor.